At the enduro race I did a bit of experimating and instead fo rotating my pictures during post processing I simply rotated the camera. It gave me some interesting photos, anything on a flat plane gets to be boring after a while. As an example http://www.pbase.com/twistedlight/image/118789717 this Vette looks much better than this Vette (in my opnion) http://www.pbase.com/twistedlight/image/119003333 because of the angle. I have been looking at some racing photography sites and cars on a flat plane are just boring after the first few cars. But that's just me. Michael On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > At 09:24 AM 11/12/2009, you wrote: > > Going to the TACK? Hmmmmm..... That's tacky, tacky, tacky! Beautiful > photeaux, altho a > > Ferrarri, or any car for that matter, appearing just short of stall speed, > running up a 20%+ grade just doesn't turn me on. > > > Well, if ya mean this one: > [image: []] > > I agree with ya, I don't think I have a real good grasp on rotating > images. I know that I've done some that have turned out acceptable, but I > couldn't give a recipe for creating 'em. Larry does a wonderful job of > this. > > Maybe we otta ax him to give us a demo on how he does it and what makes a > good one or a bad one. Something to think about. > > > "Course, Ray will tellya, I ain't got noooo aesthetic sensibilities atall > atall. > > > Well, I wasn't gonna mention it, but now that you did.... > > > > > Still thinking seriously about the tack tho. HOW he does what he does > obviously costs him some $$, (not in equipment, although he has $ome $erious > gla$$ and, no doubt dark boxes. But that's the photo biz amongst those on > the pinochle of excess. Us hackers just do the best we can with what we > have, and dream.... My hero has always been Peter Gowland. Carl > > > > > The "pinochle of success?" That almost caused me to spew soup all over the > monitor and keyboard. I haven't played pinochle for a coon's age. I guess > that ain't too politically correct, but political correctness is to me as > aesthetic is to Carl. :) > > I found that a photographer named Andy Southard made several books like > "Hotrods of the 50s" and 60s...you get the picture (double entendre > intended) which helped me with certain areas of shooting static photos of > cars. I wouldn't call him a hero, but he did some pretty good stuff. And > one real unlikely source of automotive photography is George Barris...."The > King of the Xustomizers" (self-proclaimed.) He's definitely not a hero > figure to me (hell, he got a start with his Kustom shop by...let's say, > "dismantling cars for their component parts"...not necessarily with the > permission of the owner, if ya catch my drift. Yeah, he and his brother ran > a chop shop in the LA area before George took credit for a lotta stuff that > his brother did (like the Hirohata Merc, the original standard by which > kustom 49-51 Mercurys were judged.) The one thing I've gotta give him > credit for is learning photography so he could get photos of his cars into > the magazines like Hot Rod and Rod and Custom. Nobody at that time was > shooting anything like that so he took the bull (or Rolleiflex) by the horns > and did it himself. I'll give him credit for that. Btw, here's what he was > doing in 2008: > http://www.chevyasylum.com/cruisin/cruisin2008/080302/2008GeorgeBarris_01r8_jpg.html > He's on the left, in the yellow jacket, selling autographs for $10 a pop. > Sad. I guess nobody wanted to play shuffleboard at the old folks' home. > > I gotta go put hot compresses on my eyelids again. I can hardly see to > type. Apparently I have a disorder that changes the composition of the > tears and it's a 3-way feedback loop and if one part gets outta whack, the > other 2 go nuts. If ya wanna read all about it go here: > http://www.contactlens.org.nz/extra1.aspx No, I don't wear > contacts...but the disorder seems to be almost endemic on folks 60 and > older. > > I thought I had it under control, but today...well, just picture me lying > flat on my back with a warm washcloth over my eyes (sorta like Mike's glove > photo) but with an electric bass lying across my belly. Sorry if I scared > any children with that mental image but no animals were harmed, yada, yada. > At least I can turn on the XM radio (blues station, 874, I think) in my > bedroom that I run from the DirecTV receiver to a small stereo amp and some > very vintage speakers (like from 1969 or so) that still do the job. And I > can play with my eyes closed. So I'll go amuse myself with that, since I > the eyes are starting to cloud over again, every time I blink. Damn. > > Ray (the half blind) rat. > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Knight" <Larry.Knight@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:01:32 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: [ratpack] Re: Hide the razor blades > > Ok this guy is good, but there is some info we don't know about him. > Because he is everywhere at the right time I think we have to consider > that he may have sold his sole to the devil to be at the right place at > the right time, every time. He also has some big mm lenses!!! The > picture of the reflections in the glass he is using a 600mm lense with a > 1.4 converter, wow, now that is some big zooming. He also shoots with a > lot of high iso and I don't see much noise (or course we can't blow them > up as big as our own shots) Very interesting site Ray, I think you are > right though Ray, we can all learn from this guy. > > I found an interesting site the other day with some fantastic panning > shots. http://www.freezingspeed.com/g_race_cars.html. click on the > ferrari challenge link and then click on the Ferrari 355 link. Ok I am > biased toward the 355 as my almost all time favorite Ferrari, but the > panning shots are fantastic. And most of them don't blur the back end of > the car. I wish I could see the exif data on some of these. I am not > sure how many photogs support this site, but I was impressed (not sure I > like the cartoon word balloons though) I am sorry about the Nikon > sponsorship on the page, I didn't realize was there till after I started > this email. > > It looks like crappy weather on Sat, anyone still planning on going to > the tack?? (Ok another little side note, we are surely lucky to be able > to say that "anyone going to the track". Before MMP, when I was making > my pilgrimages to Laguna Seca I always imagined two buddies in Monterey > asking that question to each other on a Sat. and now we are saying that > here in SLC, life is good, Thank you Larry Miller). > > Later > Larry > > -----Original MessLOGNULL NowTransReader::ReadIt() > JJFileMT::Truncate(18678514) LOGNULL NowTransReader::ReadIt() > JJFileMT::Truncate(0) age----- > > From: ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ > mailto:ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ] > On Behalf Of Ray Buck > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:29 PM > To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ratpack] Hide the razor blades > > A couple of year ago, Paul, Larry and I were ready to slit our > throats after comparing our photos to those shot by Jeromy (official > MMP photographer and I can't remember his last name...Camp > maybe?) When I saw some of his shots from the World Superbike race, > I wanted to spend some time sobbing uncontrollably before I did the > throat cutting. His photos were orders of magnitude better than mine. > > I believe that we've all become better photographers and I think our > shots compare favorably to his. But. (Why is there always a > "but?") I've been following Mark Rebilas' blog (I posted the url for > it here a coupla weeks ago) and I'm not sure that razor blades are a > good thing to have readily at hand, especially when I see the way he > does stuff like the photo journal of the NASCAR weekend at Texas > Motor Speedway: > http://markjrebilas.com/blog/?p=6975#more-6975 > > I once read a comic strip (Ziggy) that said, "just when I figure out > 'where it's at,' they move it." Seems that the bar has been raised a > coupla notches...at least. Not only in the "pop and drama" that Paul > likes to talk about, but his journalism and his apparent ability to > be everywhere at once make for a VERY effective and high quality blog > entry. > > I guess I better be prepared to work on my craft a bit (no, a lot) > harder in the coming year. I spose seeing work like Rebilas' helps > with seeing things differently and...well, whatever it is that I can > learn, including the presentation of the photos and line copy (or > accompanying text, if you like.) > > I better ramp up the learning curve again. > > RtR > > > -- Michael Wells MCWells Photography mcwellsphoto@xxxxxxxxx 801-850-7279