Hi,
sorry, my last mail laked the picture and maybe was somewhat garbled.
Hope it is ok now.
I was replying to Dirks mail about the trike rearpart for the felo.
I used a batten on my first training session that was fixed at right
angle under the Python. It allowed the Python to to tilt only a bit. Of
cause the batten takes some damage from scraping over the ground. You
can see it in the picture below. Of cause one could fix wheels on the
end of the batten but it worked out for me without.
I also think it is helpfull for the beginner if the python is low
enough to allow both hands to touch the ground.
It was not the case with my python at first and I realy made progress
after lowering the seat about 12 cm compared to the picture above.
I too, can only emphasize the benefit of solid gloves for the first
sessions!
I also think that the the position of the handlebars behind the seat is
not good for a beginner. They can run in your arms quite painfully if
you try to stabilize your ride with your hands on the ground. As I
learned today the hard way.
Gerald
Dirk Bonné
wrote:
On 29.06.2010 00:39, Rhisiart Gwilym wrote:
Hi Pythonists,
I placed the "handlebars" behind the seat, on the central part.
Actually, the idea was to have a leg steer only Python. But I still
needed something mount the levers for the gearhub and the break.
The point is, my python reacts clearly to the handlebars. The reaction
is on changes up and down rather than left and right. I am sure it can
be steered by the handlebars. Obviously, this does not provide any
damping action and I feel the reactions to the handlebar movements are
nervous. For now I have decided to leave the handlebars alone and steer
leg only.
Well, I am not a competent python rider, riding only on a car park yet
but I though I put in my little experience.
Gerald
I had a solidly-fixed cross bar briefly, mounted on the central
section, with no connection to the front, steering section. It was
shoulder width, and set so that I could brace down on it quite strongly
with both hands. Seems to me that it had a distinct steering influence,
because of me being able to press down on either side, and to use that
bracing to throw upper body weight sideways. I never yet got the hang
of staying on the bike for long, though, even with that bar.
Now, I have over-the-knees handlebars mounted on the front part. These
steer effectively when my feet are OFF the pedals, but seems to lose
much of their effect when my feet are on, and pedalling. Mysterious!
Leg-steer is the dominant force, handlebars is just adding to the
steer. It seems confusing at first riding with hand-steer and leg-steer
at the same time. I remember in the beginning (flevo-time), that I was
really pulling very hard on the handlebars trying to counteract what my
legs were doing. One is not going to learn riding the python by
overriding leg-steer.
I do not think that handlebars are really helpful for the first period.
May be you need like this:
http://www.wannee.nl/hpv/oefentri/index.htm
It is made to learn riding a flevo (the riding technique of flevo and
python is very simular). I excerpted a piece using google translate,
here you are:
What is this piece for?
The practice-trike rear section is intended for people who have
purchased a FlevoBike, and thus ease to learn cycling.
In FlevoBike is finally driving - once you've learned - very
relaxed, but that learning is certainly not easy in the beginning.
You should really learn to drive all over again, like you probably
used as a child on a standard bicycle've learned. Only: If you're
not a kid anymore, it's all a bit slower.
How long it takes before you can ride the bike, is very different
for each person. There are people who after a week is a
holiday-trip to make, but most people have several months of daily
driving short pieces needed to familiarize themselves with it to
feel. The practice-trike rear section is designed to help with the
very first piece. That is the hardest. If you have a week long
exercise it every day, is expected to end its possible with an
ordinary Flevobike drive. There is a clear manual with
practice-instructions.
To really get the feeling of total control over the bike to get,
and relax with their arms crossed to touring, this is not meant to
piece back. For that you simply much with your own bike to ride.
Dirk
I used a batten on my first training session that was fixed at right
angle under the Python. It allowed the Python to to tilt only a bit. Of
cause the batten takes some damage from scraping over the ground. You
can see it in the picuture below. Of cause one could fix weels on the
end of the batten but it worked out for me without.
Gerald
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