[pure-silver] Re: odd, old split-toned (?) print

  • From: Jeffrey Krenzel <jkrenzel@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:36:58 -0800 (PST)

I didn't think of hand tinting because the print is so
small.  Maybe it was partially masked, as there are
very small parts of the print that should be entirely
cold have very small bits of warm tone to them.

--- Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeffrey Krenzel" <jkrenzel@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 1:29 PM
> Subject: [pure-silver] odd, old split-toned (?)
> print
> 
> 
> >I have a "how do you do it?" question regarding an
> old
> > photograph of my wife's grandfather.  The print
> was
> > taken/made in Budapest, probably in the 1920's or
> > 1930's.
> >
> > The print shows an older man standing next to a
> river
> > and dressed in a suit and holding gloves, a
> briefcase
> > and a newspaper in one hand and a cigarette in the
> > other.
> >
> > The print is a 2-inch square, glossy that looks
> like
> > it was sepia toned apart from his gloves, hat and
> > suit, which appear to retain a full range of
> grays.
> > The warm toned face and hands makes it looks very
> much
> > like a color photograph, which is what my wife
> always
> > thought it was.  His cold toned gloves are held in
> his
> > sepia toned hand and and drape over his sepia
> toned
> > briefcase.  The only pure whites (although it is
> hard
> > to tell as it is a dirty print) are his cigarette
> and,
> > perhaps, his newspaper.
> >
> > It looks split toned, but I don't see how that
> would
> > have been accomplished as there appear to be no
> > significant differences in the densities of the
> warm
> > toned areas and the cold toned areas.  If I were
> going
> > to reproduce the look of this print I would mask
> parts
> > of it with rubber cement and then sepia tone the
> rest
> > of it.  Alternatively, I would use a small brush
> to
> > paint on bleach in selected areas to limit the
> toning
> > process, but I have difficulty imagining that
> anyone
> > would have gone to the trouble of using either of
> > these methods for a small snapshot, as opposed to
> a
> > posed portrait.
> >
> > TIA for any enlightment.
> >
>     Is it possible its tinted and not toned?  Hand
> tinted 
> miniature portraits were very popular for a long
> time before 
> color photography. It is also possible to mask a
> print so 
> that different areas are toned with different
> toners. Tim 
> Rudman describes this method is detail in his book
> on 
> printing (The Photographer's Master Printing Course)
> which I 
> highly recommend. Carrying this out on such a small
> print 
> would require considerable skill but so would hand
> tinting.
> 
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
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