[pure-silver] Re: massive dev. chart
- From: "BOB KISS" <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:14:18 -0400
DEAR SHANNON,
Developed in? Time? Temp?
CHEERS!
BOB
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: massive dev. chart
Speaking of wrong ISOs...I shot a roll of Bergger 200 last week, and
they look thin. I wonder what other people shoot this film at?
--shannon
On Nov 19, 2007, at 5:14 AM, Jon Mided wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> As it says in the guidelines of how to use the chart, many of the
> times are user submissions. In some cases times that are submitted may
> be inaccurate, but we are reliant on comparisons to published data and
> other user experiences in order to determine whether any given piece
> of data is reliable enough to include in the chart. If you are
> concerned that any data is inaccurate, the best thing to do is write
> to me so that it can be investigated and corrected if necessary. The
> chart is dependent on people like yourself contributing, so please
> make the effort to help us.
>
> From the information you have provided, it looks to me like all of the
> references to "stock" solution listed for PMK and Pyrocat-HD are a
> result of an error when the chart was reorganized. I think what has
> happened is that during batch processing of the data, the word "stock"
> was inserted where no dilution was present, whereas it should list the
> recommended standard dilution.
>
> You are the second person to point out that the ISO listed for TMax
> 100 is wrong. This was the result of a typo (believe me, they are
> rare!) and should have been corrected previously, but somehow slipped
> through. The correct EI for this data is 80. A separate listing exists
> for EI 100.
>
> I've made these corrections immediately, and will be releasing the
> next full update to the chart later this week.
>
> --Jon
>
>
>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:26:34 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Eric Nelson <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [pure-silver] massive dev. chart
>>
>> Although I applaud and admire the effort digitaltruth
>> has made in making the chart, there seems to be some
>> really big inaccuracies on the MDC site in case anyone
>> is looking to it as gospel.
>>
>> "TMax 100 PMK 11+20+1000 E.I. 20" HUH? I've run
>> tons of T-max through PMK at an E.I. of 100 @
>> 10+20+1000 dilution.
>>
>> "TMax 100 Pyrocat-HD stock E.I. 64 9 mins. 27C"
>> Stock solution for the dilution?? Gadzooks.
>>
>> Does anyone know how these numbers were reached or are
>> they typos or am I the only one that finds some of the
>> times, temps, and dilutions listed whacky? Do they
>> listen to suggestions? I'm not here to bash them as
>> this kind of resource, if accurate, is invaluable.
>>
>> Eric
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