Not sure if these were shot using film or not but: http://www.rapha.cc/index.php?page=160 I like to follow what the commercial market is up to, to see what's in vogue and what's not in terms of shooting style. Rapha is an English company that is serving to an older generation, say baby boomers who lived through cycling in the 70's and 80's and they are trying to hit a nostalgic feel with their clothing, choice of materials and of course photography. They use quite a bit of black and white work and I wondered if there isn't a market in there for this type of thing: shots of long ago Europe of cyclists that give you the Poulidor and Merckx feel.. Notice how also lots of the shots were shot dead into the sun with flair etc (surf the rest of the site and in the products section to see more). Anyhow, I just noticed that and wondered if any others have found other commercial areas for traditional photography. It's not landscapes or street photo but it appears to sell. J -- Justin F. Knotzke jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.shampoo.ca