I too received a generous amount of film from Snoopy, and I dialled it in to a developer designed by Jay DeFehr: I shoot at 10 Asa and process below developer (which you have to mix yourself), for 15 minutes in a Patterson tank at 20degC. I am quite happy with the results. Good luck! Best, Cor (no curve though) A Glycol 150 ml (heat to 50-600C) 75 ml Phenidone 7g 3.5 g Ascorbic acid 1g 0.5 g Glycol to 200 ml 100 ml B sodium carbonate 20% solution Dilute 1:1:100 From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BOB KISS Sent: maandag 3 juni 2013 15:32 To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: SNOOPY TO THE RESCUE? HD Curve for Agfa Ortho 25 DEAR MARTY, I think the fellow named Snoopy on this list sent me some suggestions for using this film as continuous tone. He has send me quite a few rolls of Agfa Ortho 25 medium format film. Here are some of his (and other's) recommendations: 1) You can try 4-6 minutes of Rodinal-S (Special) (1:15) at 20 centigrade as a starting point. The folks from the club usually went for the shorter time. 2) One of them steadfastly maintains he got nice images out with Rodinal Special at 1:25 and 8 minutes. Usual AGFA agitation: first 30 seconds continuous and one tilt every 30 sec thereafter. ***Rodinal Special is very similar to Agfa Studional available in the US (Special is not). 3) For PMK, normal recommended dilution: ASAF - 12 Temp - Nominal 68F Exposed and processed for Zone System "N" (normal) contrast Time - 10 min - agitating every 15 sec Perhaps Snoopy can jump in here with suggestions... CHEERS! BOB ________________________________ From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mail1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mail1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 2:53 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: HD Curve for Agfa Ortho 25 Marty I imagine you would have to test the film using Rodinal at 200to1. I suspect you might find the developer dilution could cause a problem, with not enough developer to develop the film. I used some high diluted developers in a rotary processor and I resorted to nitrogen injection into the tank to stop developer failure due to oxidization. I found that increasing the dilution extended the development time and flatten the curve. High dilution developers can cause irregular contrast curves You might consider Photographer's Formulary cat. #01-0080 Modified POTA (Delagi #8) developer. This developer was designed Kodak Tech Pan film. Regards, Jonathan From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin magid Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:32 AM To: Pure Silver Subject: [pure-silver] HD Curve for Agfa Ortho 25 On May 18, 2011 Edward Zimmermann provided this forum with a formula for using Agfa Ortho 25 for pictorial applications, involving "Rodinal 1:200 with a dash of Sodium Carbonate." Does anyone know where I can find an HD characteristic curve for that film using that developer? If you have such a curve, can you email it to me with an attachment? Thanks, Marty __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8406 (20130603) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8406 (20130603) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com