[pure-silver] Re: Overcoming backing paper info coming tnrough

  • From: Speedy <speedgraphic@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:08:51 -0500

Just curious.  Is the effect more pronounced on one end of the roll more than 
the other?

Speedy

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:06:21 -0400
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Overcoming backing paper info coming tnrough
From: bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

DEAR MARTY,
     Don't forget that you can use ND (neutral density) filters (glass or gels) 
to further reduce the light for your pre-exposure if you need.
     I remember shooting a test in the mid 80s using some film Ilford had given 
me to try to convince me to use it instead of Kodak.  (120 shot in my 'Blad)  
The numbers had printed through onto the film and were very visible in the 
processed negs.  When I complained to Ilford they said they discovered that 
some effluent from the inks with which they printed the back paper desensitized 
the film in areas with more ink.  To me this was yet another example of why I 
stuck with Kodak...quality control...rather than use other materials, some of 
which I liked better than the Kodak I was using.  I just couldn't afford 
reshoots!
     All this to say that you may be experiencing something similar, effluents 
or differential diffusion of humidity or some other desensitization of the film 
by the backing paper.  Not sure how to over come it except with some serious 
Frotoshop work.
     Please keep the list informed of what you discover.
                       CHEERS!
                                BOB 

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Martin magid <martin.magid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It was Snoopy I believe who gave me many rolls of outdated Agfa 25 120 film.  
This is a great film and the right speed to use in my 100+ years old No. 1 
Kodak Panoram.  The exposures in bright daylight are right on, developed in 
Rodinal.  The only problem is that the numbers, circles and lines on the 
backing paper come through to the exposed negatives and show up on the print.  
Sometimes I'm able to delete the unwanted info with Photoshop, sometimes not, 
depending on the background.

In order to minimize or eliminate that problem, I'm thinking of pre-exposing 
each exposure against a white wall in dim light using the cameras faster speed. 
There are only 2 choices of speed for the rotating f/13 lens, but I've made 
inserts for the lens up to f/32, and I think I should use the f/32 insert 
because the unwanted images come through very lightly. 

Does anyone have an opinion on this problem or my proposed solution?

Marty   


                                          

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