----- Original Message ----- From: "DarkroomMagic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "PureSilverNew" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: One package chemicals >I heard Kodak will replace oxidized bags of Dektol. I had >one once and > tested the brown vs light new Dektol. The new Dektol had a > higher Dmax than > the oxidized version. I discarded the oxidized Dektol. > > BTW, I still have very old Dektol in tin cans. So far, > they have all been > fine and show no signs of color change. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Ralph W. Lambrecht > > > The bags Kodak has used until recently are paper coated with metalized plastic. They were intended to provide the same protection from oxidation that the hermetically sealed cans of yore did but are nowhere near as good. My personal guess is that the coating developed micro-cracks which over time let in enough air to oxidize the powders. Kodak has now changed to a plastic material and also to a form where one seam is eliminated. I've had Dektol I bought go bad after a few years. For normal storage times, i.e., a few weeks or months, the bags were fine. For long term storage they are a disaster. I once bought some old Dektol at a local sale. I don't know how old it was but payed almost nothting for it. This stuff came out looking like coffee grounds and smelling of phenol or old fish, anyway, pretty awful. It went into the trash. Dektol should be white. It mixes to a light amber color, which is normal. I don't know what causes this. I haven't mixed Dektol (D-72) from scratch for years so I don't remember whether it was the same amber color or clear. The change in Kodak packaging from cans to bags was obviously done for reasons of economy. I guess they thought the two were equivalent but it may be another case of "good enough is OK". Most of the time packaged chemicals are used pretty soon after manufacture so the "good enough" packaging _is_ good enough. I guess this is closer to the ideal but I still like the over-engineered stuff of the past. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.