[pure-silver] Re: OT.......Available 120 film in China????
- From: Hi Sun Wong <hisun@xxxxxxx>
- To: "pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:36:56 +0800
Bogdan,
I am not able to tell you how get to Gobi Desert. I know a friend who drove
from Shanghai to Inner Mongolia, but he used his own car. My guess is that you
can hire a car or joining some kind of organized tour or private tour. Just
make sure the price is right before you do anything.
China, especially in big cities, like Beijing and Shanghai, is very expensive.
It is not what used to be.
Regards
Hisun
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On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Bogdan Karasek <BKarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello
>
> and Thank you very much on your update. By the way, the two times I had
> fogged film was crossing into the USA by car from Canada. They x-rayed all
> my photo equipemen including film. I didn't know that because the car was
> being omspected. When I was in China in 2005, I flew from Quindao to
> Beijing and back and all film was hand inspected, at my request. Same for
> Air Korea from Seoul to Los Angles and AA to Montreal. The one funny this
> was the airport at Quindao going to Beijing. They confiscated a can of
> compressed air that I carried with my camera gear, and the dust in Beijing in
> November. Wheh i left the counter, the customs officer wsa sprying
> compressed air on his hand and getting a kick out of it. dangerous stuff,
> air...
> I always hand carry film and what lenses I can remove, to protect the
> glass, also filters. Wrap camera bodies in T-shirts. I'll be shooting
> 80% 120 Tri-x and 6-10 rolls of Fuji Provia 100.
> Its only twelve days, so I'll just make sure to bring more than enough.
>
> Actually, I do have a question, it's a far shot.... How can I get to the
> Gobi Desert and Outer Mongolia?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Regards, Bogdan
>
>
> On 21/08/2013 8:41 AM, Hi Sun Wong wrote:
>> Bogdan,
>>
>> Don't worry about x-raying films. I am still using films. 120, 135(X-Pan
>> format) and 4x5 for my trips to the West of China, every other year usually.
>> I carry films up to 400ASA, color and black & white. I do not see any
>> problem with x-raying films going to numerous flights I took for the trips
>> in the past. The prints made from the x-rayed films were exhibited in
>> galleries, shows and museums many times and no one told me I had
>> fogged films.
>>
>> Don't expect custom agents to hand inspecting in China. They know what and
>> why you asked for hand inspections, but they all say it is film safe, it is
>> printed on the machine with big letters, right. They don't care as well. I
>> don't know why your films were fogged, were your trips in China? Back when
>> Kodachrome was available, I routinely passed Kodachrome through the x-ray
>> machine with no fogging. My most recent rip was flying
>> HK-ChengDou-Beijing-Urumuqi-Dunhuang-Beijing-HK, total of 6 airports, I had
>> 70 or 80 rolls of 120 and 135 films with me. That was not a truly
>> photographic trips. I went to Lop Nor, camping along the way, so no 4x5.
>> Driving 10 hours a day, so no time to do real photography. I do not have any
>> problem with film fogging at all. But I hand carried my films, no
>> check in. Check in films is NO NO.
>>
>> Many films are available in Shanghai and Beijing, even 8x10 TMAX, But you
>> don't want to have to go to the specialty shops/shopping centres just to buy
>> films. They are usually out of the ways, in cheaper non-central areas.
>> There are many people shooting film in China. It is fashionable to shoot
>> films these days.
>>
>> I live in Shanghai, I am from Hong Kong. I buy films in Shanghai, Hong Kong
>> and occasionally in Tokyo. Tokyo has the best collections, Hong Kong has the
>> least. I am not sure about Beijing. I guess it is about the same as
>> Shanghai.
>>
>> Enjoy the trip and let me know if you have more questions.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Hisun
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Bogdan <bkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion regarding bringing my own film for the duration
>>> of the trip. Too much time would be wasted looking for film. My one worry
>>> is that that my film gets x-rayed and fogged. Hopefully, customs agents
>>> will oblige by hand inspecting if I request it, but I am at their mercy.
>>> If they decide to x-ray it, then I am screwed.
>>> The last two times, all my film was fogged.
>>>
>>> If I run into some 120 Shanghai 100asa, I'll buy it.
>>>
>>> As you point out, I'll have better things to do than searching for film.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input; much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Regards, Bogdan
>>>
>>> On 8/21/2013 2:04 AM, Eric Nelson wrote:
>>>> I'd buy everything before you go.
>>>>
>>>> Films are hard to come by over here in Thailand from what I've seen.
>>>> Camera stores, other than some a special area in Chinatown, are all geared
>>>> towards digital.
>>>> You'd have to search for, then find the store, then check out whether it's
>>>> out of date etc during a short 12 day trip, all the while trying to get
>>>> through the language barrier unless you are fluent. Believe me trying to
>>>> talk tech in another language is near impossible. I've got a "decent"
>>>> amount of the basics of Thai, but that still leaves me completely
>>>> unprepared to talk shop. Completely.
>>>> You will have better things to do.
>>>>
>>>> If you stumble across some odd film and it's real cheap, it might be fun
>>>> stuff to play with and experiment with. But for the serious shooting, byo
>>>> and be fairly certain of it's quality and characteristics. Back in early
>>>> 2000's I saw some Kodak E6 120 in Macau and it was out of date and
>>>> expensive.
>>>>
>>>>
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