[pure-silver] Re: Mr. Nash's arrogance
- From: Gerald Koch <gerald.koch@xxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:02:25 -0700 (PDT)
What we would term pop music did not come into existence until the 19th century
with Italian opera composers. People actually walked down the street whistling
Rossini. They waited in expectation for each new composition.
Little of Bach's output could be considered popular. He was considered old
fashioned even in his own day. The bulk of his work was for liturgical use by
the Lutheran church. Mozart's music was largely ignoreed by most people of the
time. It was only his last composition The Magic Flute (a schauspiel and not
an opera) done at the behest of Schikaneder that achieved popular success.
Schikaneder was an astute business man and knew what the common people wanted.
Jerry
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Mr. Nash's arrogance
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Date: Saturday, October 20, 2012, 11:09 PM
Here's a thought experiment to illustrate my point:
Bach, Mozart, etc. have lived on for hundreds of years. In their
day they were the "popular music". Now then, can you name any
"popular music" that has survived just from 100 years ago. That is,
is there anything from 1912-ish that continues to be listened to
regularly? I can't. You might make the argument for Stravinsky
or Copeland or even Scott Joplin, but they mostly appear in obscure
movie soundtracks. My point is this: If the overwhelming majority
of music cannot survive even 100 years, it will be lost in 200. I grew
up listening to the soundtrack of the 1960s and 1970s. I see (almost)
nothing there that will stand the test of time.
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Well I find the attitude more offensive than the statement.
First how self important does one have to feel to pronounce the way others work
to be worthless and history?? Film may will become unprofitable for anyone to
make it, and it may well have supplies regulated out of existence from those
that think we control the nature. Yet to have the attitude that he was handed
down the power to declare a method of creation dead, bothers me more than the
fact that film might be gone. Frankly I doubt it. Painters didn't go away
because of photography, and there are some good reasons when at times a
negative is a plus.
Yes Bach wrote music that has lasted for centuries. Most of it was church
music, often written specially for a particular weeks service. Something else
people forget. When you hear many of Bach's music played, often its a best
guess as to what it might have sounded like when Bach performed it. Much of it
was improvised. He would often record a melody, a cord structure and from that
basic outline the rest would be improvised on the spot. With the volume of
work that was required during the day, it was almost a necessity.
Now for the music buffs out there, here is a trivia question. Handel wrote the
entire Messiah in 28 days, but he had a good reason. What was it??
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