[pure-silver] Re: Learning from Printing (was Difference in Paper Processing Speed)
- From: "Elias Roustom" <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:51:30 -0500
By ready to graduate you mean when I'm out of D76?
Is pyro something I can buy or is it something I have to mix?
Is it the active ingredient in HC110 or Ilford HC?
Is it really dangerous to handle?
Elias
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM, BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> DEAR ELIAS,
> When you are ready to graduate, if you really want highlight and
> shadow separation with beautiful silvery midtones, forget D-76 and consider
> a Pyro developer. I like PMK but many also like Pyrocat HD. I will soon
> be
> testing Pyrocat but I have sworn by PMK for a decade and adore the prints
> made from the negs.
> I spent many years using D-76, first at RIT and then in my NYC
> studio in a 3 1/2 gallon tank line with Panatomic X. By 1988 I had
> exhausted its possibilities and was searching for something better. D-76
> just can't hold a candle to pyro developers. I have had great results with
> PMK pyro dev with T-max 400, Ilford HP-5 and FP-4 as well as Fuji Neopan
> and
> even repackaged Agfa films (aka Rollei Retro). The only films that don't
> seem to like pyro are Bergger thick emulsion films but they are beautiful
> in
> other standard devs...yes, even D-76.
> Step right up to smooth highlights, open separated shadows, and
> silvery midtones. Leave D-76 behind.
> CHEERS!
> BOB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elias Roustom
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:44 PM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Learning from Printing (was Difference in Paper
> Processing Speed)
>
> Previously: Difference in Paper Processing Speed
>
> The photo that got me started with the testing, and brought us the
> previous thread, has been scanned and is up on my Flickr page: http://
> www.flickr.com/photos/elroustom/3041391461/
>
> There is a lot to learn from observing the little variations, perhaps
> especially in a photo where the topic isn't overwhelmingly
> captivating. I ended up liking the print with the more contrast, if
> at the expense of the detail in the highlights. The heck with that
> bit of information, what I want is more depth and form. I didn't know
> I had that option before comparing different sheets made it available.
>
> This print is interesting to me too because I get to see what the
> wide angle lens does with DOF at such close range, and will make me
> think it through a little more. The subject was by a window, and I
> can see now that a little more even lighting would have helped.
>
> There is a difference in character of the line weight and shape from
> the top half of the image to the bottom. I wish I could figure out
> how to make images more like what's in the top half. Reminds me of my
> charcoal drawing days.
>
> There are several reasons I got (back) into photography, one of them
> was to be a beginner at something (again). It's ever so humbling, but
> I can feel my mind sharpening as it grinds against this difficult and
> complicated medium. Or I forgot to turn the vent fan on again...
>
> Elias
>
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