DEAR ELIAS, When you are ready to graduate, if you really want highlight and shadow separation with beautiful silvery midtones, forget D-76 and consider a Pyro developer. I like PMK but many also like Pyrocat HD. I will soon be testing Pyrocat but I have sworn by PMK for a decade and adore the prints made from the negs. I spent many years using D-76, first at RIT and then in my NYC studio in a 3 1/2 gallon tank line with Panatomic X. By 1988 I had exhausted its possibilities and was searching for something better. D-76 just can't hold a candle to pyro developers. I have had great results with PMK pyro dev with T-max 400, Ilford HP-5 and FP-4 as well as Fuji Neopan and even repackaged Agfa films (aka Rollei Retro). The only films that don't seem to like pyro are Bergger thick emulsion films but they are beautiful in other standard devs...yes, even D-76. Step right up to smooth highlights, open separated shadows, and silvery midtones. Leave D-76 behind. CHEERS! BOB -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elias Roustom Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:44 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Learning from Printing (was Difference in Paper Processing Speed) Previously: Difference in Paper Processing Speed The photo that got me started with the testing, and brought us the previous thread, has been scanned and is up on my Flickr page: http:// www.flickr.com/photos/elroustom/3041391461/ There is a lot to learn from observing the little variations, perhaps especially in a photo where the topic isn't overwhelmingly captivating. I ended up liking the print with the more contrast, if at the expense of the detail in the highlights. The heck with that bit of information, what I want is more depth and form. I didn't know I had that option before comparing different sheets made it available. This print is interesting to me too because I get to see what the wide angle lens does with DOF at such close range, and will make me think it through a little more. The subject was by a window, and I can see now that a little more even lighting would have helped. There is a difference in character of the line weight and shape from the top half of the image to the bottom. I wish I could figure out how to make images more like what's in the top half. Reminds me of my charcoal drawing days. There are several reasons I got (back) into photography, one of them was to be a beginner at something (again). It's ever so humbling, but I can feel my mind sharpening as it grinds against this difficult and complicated medium. Or I forgot to turn the vent fan on again... Elias ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3623 (20081118) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.