[pure-silver] Re: Learning from Printing (was Difference in Paper Processing Speed)

  • From: "BOB KISS" <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:33:35 -0400

DEAR ELIAS,
        When you are ready to graduate, if you really want highlight and
shadow separation with beautiful silvery midtones, forget D-76 and consider
a Pyro developer.  I like PMK but many also like Pyrocat HD.  I will soon be
testing Pyrocat but I have sworn by PMK for a decade and adore the prints
made from the negs.  
        I spent many years using D-76, first at RIT and then in my NYC
studio in a 3 1/2 gallon tank line with Panatomic X.  By 1988 I had
exhausted its possibilities and was searching for something better.  D-76
just can't hold a candle to pyro developers.  I have had great results with
PMK pyro dev with T-max 400, Ilford HP-5 and FP-4 as well as Fuji Neopan and
even repackaged Agfa films (aka Rollei Retro).  The only films that don't
seem to like pyro are Bergger thick emulsion films but they are beautiful in
other standard devs...yes, even D-76.   
        Step right up to smooth highlights, open separated shadows, and
silvery midtones.  Leave D-76 behind.
                CHEERS!
                        BOB 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elias Roustom
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:44 PM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Learning from Printing (was Difference in Paper
Processing Speed)

Previously: Difference in Paper Processing Speed

The photo that got me started with the testing, and brought us the  
previous thread, has been scanned and is up on my Flickr page: http:// 
www.flickr.com/photos/elroustom/3041391461/

There is a lot to learn from observing the little variations, perhaps  
especially in a photo where the topic isn't overwhelmingly  
captivating. I ended up liking the print with the more contrast, if  
at the expense of the detail in the highlights. The heck with that  
bit of information, what I want is more depth and form. I didn't know  
I had that option before comparing different sheets made it available.

This print is interesting to me too because I get to see what the  
wide angle lens does with DOF at such close range, and will make me  
think it through a little more. The subject was by a window, and I  
can see now that a little more even lighting would have helped.

There is a difference in character of the line weight and shape from  
the top half of the image to the bottom. I wish I could figure out  
how to make images more like what's in the top half. Reminds me of my  
charcoal drawing days.

There are several reasons I got (back) into photography, one of them  
was to be a beginner at something (again). It's ever so humbling, but  
I can feel my mind sharpening as it grinds against this difficult and  
complicated medium. Or I forgot to turn the vent fan on again...

Elias
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