[pure-silver] Darkrooms
- From: Mark Blackwell <mblackwell1958@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:15:41 -0800 (PST)
Well one thing I have found over the years is that almost every place I have
ever worked I wished there was something different than the way it is. Never
built one totally from scratch though that was a totally dedicated to being a
darkroom.
I would be interested in knowing what nits, you know those nagging things we
all deal with in our darkrooms, that were either unavoidable or caused by
something we thought we needed and didn't or something we really didn't we
didn't think we did.
I like the outdoors and it hit me I wonder how tough it would be to have an old
style darkroom tent. I have a generator, so it could have power. Now water
would be more of a problem with temp control, especially in the summer time.
Yet if they did it back in the wet plate era, hmm. A beater enlarger that was
for that purpose only. Granted may not be the most practical but it might be
handy. I am no fan of changing bags thats for sure.
--- On Sun, 11/9/08, Shannon Stoney <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Shannon Stoney <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: depth of mat
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 7:54 AM
> The reason I think about the frame first is that I got a
> great wooden one on sale, so I started there.
>
> The darkroom is great and I am using it a lot.
>
> --shannon
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Mark Blackwell wrote:
>
> > Well Shannon a few thoughts for consideration. When I
> run into this type of thing, I tend to think a bit
> different. I think print first then frame. I might have a
> general idea of a frame, but I put the first priority on the
> print. Now one thing you can do is cut just plain on paper
> the size the size you think you want the print. The some
> scrap cardboard the size of the mat you think you want and
> see what you think.
> >
> > Some indeed recommend bottom weighting the mat. Now I
> am one that never cuts my own mats so I talk to a framer on
> when and how much to bottom weight. I usually have a frame
> in mind or already bought when I buy a mat. They know all
> the ins and outs of how much for what size and will help you
> when they cut the mat.
> >
> > Frankly I like over sized mats so I often go much
> bigger, but 3 inch should be fine if that's what you
> like. That's the whole point unless is for someone
> else. Then its if they like it, its good. I like 8x10s in
> 16x20 frames, 5x7 in 11x14s ect. but its all personal
> preference.
> >
> > Hows the darkroom coming? You used it yet?
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Shannon Stoney
> <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Shannon Stoney
> <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: depth of mat
> >> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 5:29 PM
> >> I just realized that the border will have to be
> bigger at
> >> the top and bottom if I make an 8" wide
> print, portrait
> >> format. That is, the negative is 4x5. Let's
> say I
> >> print it at 8x10. Then the top and bottom borders
> will have
> >> to be 5" but the side borders will be
> 4", to fit
> >> in a 16x20 frame.
> >>
> >> I am printing it at a lab where there is an epson
> printer
> >> and I have to pay by the square inch or something,
> which is
> >> why I want to figure it out ahead of time, rather
> than
> >> making a print and trying it.
> >>
> >> I have to confess: it's a color transparency.
> >>
> >> --shannon
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 8, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Ken Hart1 wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's really a matter of taste and the
> photo
> >> subject. My standard "no extra charge"
> mat is
> >> about two inches all around (Actually, it's a
> 'one
> >> size up' mat: an 8x10 print in an 11x14 frame,
> 11x14
> >> print in a 16x20 frame, etc,). Depending on the
> subject
> >> matter and the effect you're going for,
> it's
> >> possible that you could contact print the neg and
> mount that
> >> 4x5 print. Personally, I would think that's a
> bit odd...
> >>>
> >>> Some people will also tell you that the sides
> and top
> >> should be equal and the bottom of the mat wider.
> If your
> >> print is square format, you might consider that.
> >>>
> >>> Then there is the matter of mat color and
> texture....
> >>>
> >>> Are you now more confused than before you
> asked the
> >> question? If so, my work here is done!
> >>>
> >>> In my opinion, if the picture is powerful, a
> small
> >> border will be fine.If the picture will be helped
> by the
> >> mat, a wider mat might be better. If you think a
> 4"
> >> border will be good, why not make an 8x12 print
> and lay it
> >> in the frame to get an idea of how it will look.
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, I have a 16x20 frame, and I want to
> make a
> >> print to fit this frame,
> >>>> from a 4x5 negative. What is a good mat
> depth for
> >> that size? I am
> >>>> thinking a 4" border all the way
> around. I
> >> think 3" might be too
> >>>> skimpy.
> >>>>
> >>>> --shannon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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