[pure-silver] Re: D-76 and variations
- From: BertS <aasainz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:44:17 -0500
Richard Knoppow wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "BertS" <aasainz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:12 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Buyer found for AGFA Photo
Richard Knoppow wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Thorsten"
<charlie_thorsten@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Buyer found for AGFA Photo
Snipping here.....
Te difference between buffered and unbuffered d76 is only a little bit
of boric acid, isn't it? (my books are still in Wilma-proof boxes). If
so, isn't it possible to make ID11 into a buffered D76 by adding a
pinch of boric acid on mixing?
Boric acid is available even from grocery stores for those who don't
stock raw chemicals.
Bert
The original D-76 formula and Ilford's published formula for ID-11 are:
Water (at 125F or 52C) 750.0 ml
Metol 2.0 grams
Sodium Sulfite, dessicated 100.0 grams
Hydroquinone 5.0 grams
Borax, granulated 2.0 grams
Water to make 1.0 liter
The formula for D-76d, the buffered variety is:
Water (at 125F or 52C) 750.0 ml
Metol 2.0 grams
Sodium Sulfite, dessicated 100.0 grams
Hydroquinone 5.0 grams
Borax, granulated 8.0 grams
Boric acid, crystalline 8.0 grams
Water to make 1.0 liter
With this amount of Borax and Boric acid the activity of the buffered
developer is the same as that of freshly made D-76. The activity stays
stable over long periods of time.
The activity of the buffered developer can be varied by changing the
ratio of the Borax to Boric acid, the total of the two remaining the same.
It is probable that the packaged forms of both D-76 and ID-11 are
slightly different. Probably both contain sequestering agents and
possibly other stuff that is present in too small an amount to show up
on the MSDS.
In the USA 20 Mule Team Borax is chemically pure enough for
photographic use according to its manufacturer. However, be careful not
to get "Borax Cleaner" which contains soap and other ingredients. Boric
Acid is sold in many drugstores. People used to soak their feet in it.
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
OK, more tahan "a bit" of boric acid. So, ID11 + 6 grams borax + 8 grams of
boric acid to 1 liter. Any problems with just adding this in?
Bert
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----- Original Message ----- From: "BertS" <aasainz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:12 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Buyer found for AGFA Photo
Richard Knoppow wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Thorsten" <charlie_thorsten@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Buyer found for AGFA Photo
Snipping here.....
Te difference between buffered and unbuffered d76 is only a little bit of boric acid, isn't it? (my books are still in Wilma-proof boxes). If so, isn't it possible to make ID11 into a buffered D76 by adding a pinch of boric acid on mixing?
Boric acid is available even from grocery stores for those who don't stock raw chemicals.
Bert
The original D-76 formula and Ilford's published formula for ID-11 are:
Water (at 125F or 52C) 750.0 ml Metol 2.0 grams Sodium Sulfite, dessicated 100.0 grams Hydroquinone 5.0 grams Borax, granulated 2.0 grams Water to make 1.0 liter
The formula for D-76d, the buffered variety is:
Water (at 125F or 52C) 750.0 ml Metol 2.0 grams Sodium Sulfite, dessicated 100.0 grams Hydroquinone 5.0 grams Borax, granulated 8.0 grams Boric acid, crystalline 8.0 grams Water to make 1.0 liter
With this amount of Borax and Boric acid the activity of the buffered developer is the same as that of freshly made D-76. The activity stays stable over long periods of time.
The activity of the buffered developer can be varied by changing the ratio of the Borax to Boric acid, the total of the two remaining the same.
It is probable that the packaged forms of both D-76 and ID-11 are slightly different. Probably both contain sequestering agents and possibly other stuff that is present in too small an amount to show up on the MSDS.
In the USA 20 Mule Team Borax is chemically pure enough for photographic use according to its manufacturer. However, be careful not to get "Borax Cleaner" which contains soap and other ingredients. Boric Acid is sold in many drugstores. People used to soak their feet in it.
--- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- [pure-silver] Re: Buyer found for AGFA Photo
- From: Charlie Thorsten
- [pure-silver] Re: Buyer found for AGFA Photo
- From: Richard Knoppow
- [pure-silver] Re: Buyer found for AGFA Photo
- From: BertS
- [pure-silver] D-76 and variations
- From: Richard Knoppow