Darrel - I noticed the same thin. I managed to see the message in the bottom of the window saying that the connection was refused. Rein seemed to think that the PA-land cluster that the program points at is refusing the connection. There is a configuration file in there that you can change and point at your local cluster or some other internet accessable cluster and it should work. I have not tried it yet... -- 73 - Bill - N8ET Kanga US www.kangaus.com 419-423-4604 (Kanga) 419-423-5643 (home)