Hi All, I have read all the manuals that I could find. I have searched and read through the mail list. I have done all the configurations with all the variables that I could think of. I have even cleared all my lists. And still I cannot get Gmail to handle my outgoing mail via my server. (And yes, POP3 is enabled.) $smtpauthlevel = 2 $smtptlsuser=? (Do I need a special user account for this with Gmail ?) @ = \@ $smtptlspass = ? (Do I need a special one from Gmail ?) $smtptlsport = 587 (also tried 465) GRRRRR Is there another ISP that works well for the server ? Please help ? KC9SGV Ps BTW, I think all of this could be easier for the average guy if their was a UI (with dropdown tips) for the server like what flDigi has. Many of the potential semantic mistakes could be averted that way.