[projectaon] Outstanding Errata Sprint (Week 12) -- Footnote Frenzy (Part I)
- From: Simon Osborne <outspaced@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Project Aon <projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:30:11 +0100
Hi fellow pedants
Although we still have the one issue from last week to resolve
(respecting the possible footnote placing of the use of Flameshaft in
14tcok Section 243) It seems a good idea to post these to elicit
feedback, especially as most of these are potential footnotes as well.
Anyway, it's Week 12 already. Sterling work all round. I'm amazed you're
all still here! With Zagarna dead and buried, let's make it a case of
Footnote Frenzy as we focus on the proposed footnotes for Books 15
through 17. (Adding footnotes is a pain for updating purposes, so it'd
be nice to get them resolved first, before tackling the errata against
Book 15!) If you're thinking that we seem to have leapt up in the number
of issues per week, you'd be right. There's a darn good reason for this,
though. You'll see. ;-)
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The Darke Crusade
(er/ft) 156: and erase any potions of Laumspur and/or Alether. [jfs: Is
Laumwort omitted from this list intentionally? Or should it be added
there too?]
[Amarande: Other healing potions aren't mentioned, either, and there are
a number of them (e.g., Larnuma, Oxydine, Oede, Kourshah, Baylon's
Fungi, Silver Flask, etc.). I think we should trust in Joe here that he
said "Laumspur" specifically and not "ENDURANCE restoring Backpack Items."]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/15tdc/title.htm#sect156>
(ft) 156: Also, erase any Meals you may have been carrying in your
Backpack, and erase any potions of Laumspur and/or Alether. [jfs: Does
this apply to "jars" (as opposed to potions) too? Since jars (obtained
in #13) might contain more than one dose of Laumpsur / Alether it is
quite unfair to have Lone Wolf dispose of them fully if he is carrying
these.]
[Amarande: I do think it should apply to the Jars, though; IMO the Jars
are merely Potions that contain multiple doses in a single Backpack Item
slot, they are not intrinsically different from the potions. (As far as
I recall there are VERY few cases where Joe specifically indicates a
specific potion from among a given 'strain' of potions. E.g., book 3
where only the colored concentrates are usable in certain situations, or
book 5 when you can only use a Tincture of Graveweed, not a concentrate.
In just about every other case I've seen, Laumspur is Laumspur, etc.)]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/15tdc/title.htm#sect156>
(ft) 163: [DED: How about a footnote here to remind players that use of
Kai-surge incurs loss of 1 EP?]
[ik: Do we also need to add that Kai-surge can only be used if you have
more than 6 EP? Or we add a footnote to the description of Psi-surge and
Kai-surge. Then we don't have to add footnotes to each and every
individual numbered section. Footnotes hurt the flow of reading.
Therefore we should use them sparingly in numbered sections.]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/15tdc/title.htm#sect163>
(ft) 190: [DED: How about a footnote here to remind players that use of
Kai-surge incurs loss of 1 EP?]
[ik: Do we also need to add that Kai-surge can only be used if you have
more than 6 EP? Or we add a footnote to the description of Psi-surge and
Kai-surge. Then we don't have to add footnotes to each and every
individual numbered section. Footnotes hurt the flow of reading.
Therefore we should use them sparingly in numbered sections.]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/15tdc/title.htm#sect190>
(ft) 221: If you discover that your answer is wrong, or if you cannot
solve the puzzle [Sasha Cooper: The text this option leads to shows Lone
Wolf giving up - it seems a bit strange not to allow more than one try.]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/15tdc/title.htm#sect221>
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The Legacy of Vashna
(er) 14: If you win and the fight lasts five rounds or less, turn to
145. If you win and the fight lasts six rounds or more, turn to 25.
[LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007: Section 145 has the captain still alive after
being defeated. Presumably, the problem might be solved by emending to:
"If you win and the fight lasts five rounds or less, turn to 25. If the
fight lasts into the sixth round, do not continue, but turn immediately
to 145."]
(ft) 60: [DED: As far as I'm aware, the text in this book doesn't
explicitly state that you have now arrived in the Plane of Darkness.
However you're asked in The Deathlord of Ixia if you've previously
visited this Plane, and I don't see any other time it could have been
than here. So, I'd suggest footnoting here that this is the Plane of
Darkness.]
[tw: 16tlov section 72 does mention that Shamath's home is on the Plane
of Darkness. This is a mandatory section.]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/16tlov/title.htm#sect60>
(ft) 93: [DED: I feel there should be a hidden loyalty bonus here, as
Scion-Kai with Pathsmanship should be able to understand any language.
Suggest the following footnote: If you have successfully completed
previous Lone Wolf adventures, possessed the Magnakai Discipline of
Pathsmanship and attained the rank of Scion-kai, you may also turn to
section 243.]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/16tlov/title.htm#sect93>
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The Deathlord of Ixia
(ft) 150: If you have ever been to the Plane of Darkness before, in a
previous Lone Wolf adventure [DED: Suggested footnote: "This seemingly
refers to your visit to the Demoness Shamath's domain in Book 17 'The
Legacy of Vashna'" (IIRC the text of 17tlov does not explicitly state
that you are in the Plane of Darkness, but this must be what's referred
to as this is where you meet the Lavas.)]
[so: Relates to the proposed footnote for 16tlov:60 above]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect150>
(ft) 15: [DED: I think there's scope for a Hidden Loyalty Bonus here, as
improved Magnakai Huntmastery at the rank of Primate enables you to
climb without ropes. Suggested footnote: "If you have completed previous
Lone Wolf Magnakai adventures where you possessed the Discipline of
Huntmastery and had attained the Rank of Primate (enabling climbing
without the use of a Rope), you may also turn to section 323."]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect15>
23: [DED: Should there not be an issue/consequence here as to whether or
not you choose to use the Sommerswerd in this combat?]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect23>
35: [DED: Should there not be an issue/consequence here as to whether or
not you choose to use the Sommerswerd in this combat?]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect35>
(ft) 123: [DED: Surely it *is* pretty clear (contrary to the current
footnote) that this is a Kai-Blast? Should the footnote not also mention
that you should deduct -4EP?]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect123>
(ft) 234: [DED: Add a footnote here to remind players to deduct 1 EP for
the use of Kai-surge?]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect123>
(ft) 243, 336: Without weapons or equipment you have no choice but to
fight this enemy unarmed. (Remember to make the appropriate adjustments
to your COMBAT SKILL.)
[LM, March 2007: What are the 'appropriate adjustments'? the combat
skill loss for unarmed fighting has been eliminated]
[TP: I'd suggest footnoting this rather than outright eliminating the
parentheses.]
[TW: Most players will have CS-boosting equipment and/or [Grand]
Weaponmastery in the weapon they usually fight with, so this reminder is
probably a good idea.]
[DED: This issue is still relevant if the player has not completed
previous Magnakai adventures where they had Weaponmastery (i.e. LM's
comment "the combat skill loss for unarmed fighting has been eliminated"
- the bold text in "The Game Rules" section explicitly states: "Only if
you have completed these previous adventures will you benefit from the
appropriate bonuses in the course of the Grand Master series" - this
appears to overrule the description of Kai/Magnakai Weaponmastery "...no
COMBAT SKILL loss when fighting bare-handed" - indeed it might be worth
footnoting this in the descriptions of Weaponmastery and Curing.]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect243>
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect336>
(ft) 330: [DED: Should there not be a footnote here reminding the player
that they must possess at least 6EP to use Kai-Surge? Also, once they
use it, it should cost them 1EP.]
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm#sect330>
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/17tdoi/title.htm>
(er) Many: [JD: Is Ixiataaga undead? Do you get the Sommerswerd
bonus when in combat against him?]
[jb: I always assumed that Ixiataaga was undead - he looks like a
reanimated skeleton after all. But then when I went to add a footnote
about it, I looked for a reference to back up the footnote. I never
found one. This probable misconception about Ixiataaga being undead may
need a footnote itself.]
(er) Many: [JD: At what point does using the Sommerswerd become
permissible again?]
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THE MASTERS OF DARKNESS
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/12tmod/title.htm>
BOOK 12 (220): [bk: Section 220 is unreachable. To get there, you
have to be an Archmaster with Nexus, which means you have all but one
discipline. However, the only route there is 150 -> 80 -> 249 -> 67 ->
121 -> 220. 249 is only reachable if you don't have Huntmastery at
Archmaster level, and 67 is only reachable if you don't have
Pathsmanship at Tutelary level. So to get to 220, you must be an
Archmaster who has neither Huntmastery nor Pathsmanship.]
[tp: The only (simple) way I can see to make it work is to move the
"longer than 4 rounds -> 121" option to 83, rather than 67. Now, that
seems like it's punishing you for having advanced skills -- in 83, you
avoided the ambush thanks to your advanced Pathsmanship, but now you
might get an instadeath if you take too long to win -- but I think it
actually kind of works. Everything is in your favour: you ignore two
rounds worth of EP loss, and your opponents have a Combat Skill that's 4
lower than it is in 67. If you can't finish this fight in 4 rounds,
maybe you deserve to face instadeath. Anyway, it's arguably better than
risking instadeath for not being a Tutelary with Pathsmanship.]
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SHADOW ON THE SAND
<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/05sots/title.htm>
(ft) 05sots 58: If you choose the wrong section, then turn to Section
156 as indicated above. You do not get a second guess. -> If you choose
the wrong section, then turn to Section 98. You do not get a second
guess. [jc: If you choose the wrong section, you trigger an alarm (as
stated in section 156), so you cannot have a second guess and should go
directly to section 98.]
--
Simon Osborne
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