Well what I think is someone took Small talk and Objective C and ADA and a few other obscure objective languages and said lets really make people who like objects happy . Its a very objective language that takes objective programming to the next extreme. I might just go get the visual studio plug in and see if it works with the Visual studio scripts because while I think this is a very bloated language it looks fun to play with. If you want some really good reading on this the best place I have found is actually on Wikipedia at this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_(programming_language)#Syntax_and_semant ics I will say this language has taken care of some problems I see with Java and lots of problems I see with C++ and made a truly objective language the problem I see is it doesn't seem that anyone has implemented a full set of the IFFEL standard yet. Meaning the compilers none of them seem to be complete this can be a problem with open source languages like this one but who knows maybe someone has a complete compiler some where I just haven't found one. That doesn't mean that you can't use the language its just like the creators of the compiler have said Oh we don't need that feature so we won't put it in our compiler. So this language definitely seems to have promises. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:40 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: eiffel? Any1 know about this language & whutcha think? Also, please read my signature & sign the petition if u haven't already. -- Jackie McBride Please sign the Yahoo Accessibility petition at: <http://www.petitiononline.com/yabvipma/petition.html> & Check out my homepage at: www.abletec.serverheaven.net __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind