RE: accessible ajax
- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:30:18 -0400
Ok
Take care,
Sina
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:57 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: accessible ajax
What do you want to demonstrate?
You already said in a previous email that ARIA is not accessible and I know
that Firefox is not as accessible as IE, but you recommend me to search more
information about them?
If Firefox instanciate them as common html controls is not important for the
moment, because most of the blind use IE which doesn't do that, and that
thing is not a standard anyway, not to mention that they are not very
accessible for us.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: accessible ajax
> Then I'd suggest you to more research into ARIA and frameworks like dojo
> and
> openlaszlo
>
> Also firefox instanciates these things as actual controls, so this is a
> rather uninformed opinion that it's just javascript and dhtml.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
> Rasnita
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:12 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: accessible ajax
>
> I know what AJAX is, and I already used AJAX, but I can also tell that
> there
> are no AJAX controls. This is just a nice word but only that.
>
> Those so called controls are nothing more than simple Javascript code,
> generated manually or by a Javascript library that draw menus, tree views,
> WYSIWYG editors or other things. The result is a dynamicly generated HTML
> control or a dynamicly generated html link or simple text. I haven't seen
> anything else than that.
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:29 PM
> Subject: RE: accessible ajax
>
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
>> Rasnita
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:18 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: accessible ajax
>>
>> What is an Ajax control? Can you give some examples?
>>
>> Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Thomas" <rthomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: accessible ajax
>>
>>
>>> Hi Guys:
>>> I work in the Visual Studio, actually Express, environment. I read
>>> about
>>> Ajax Accessibility issues but thought they were due to the nature of
>>> dynamic html rendered at run-time and Screen Readers.
>>> If you use Ajax controls, let me know how they rendered and worked with
>>> your Screen Reader as I was thinking of going that route myself.
>>> It sounds like this is a Development environment but if it addresses any
>>> run-time problems let me know also and I'll dig into it and may switch
>>> to
>>> Ajax or whatever MS is calling it these days.
>>> Thanks:
>>> Rick Farmington Mich. USA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:40 PM
>>> Subject: RE: accessible ajax
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm always glad to hear about and see someone else using this.
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Sina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jaffar
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:59 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: accessible ajax
>>>>
>>>> Hi All. I have found an accessible, free and open source ajax
>>>> development
>>>> framework known as Open Lazlo. It consists of a web based development
>>>> framework and a tomcat server which is directed to port 8080 on your
>>>> pc.
>>>> Although this is strictly an ajax framework, it is based on the LZX,
>>>> xml
>>>> based language which provides for very tight xml syntax. The website
>>>> to
>>>> download this app is, should you be interested, www.openlaszlo.org/ It
>>>> is
>>>> also worth noting that you will be able to create desktop apps with
>>>> this
>>>> framework. The only other dependency you will need to run Open Lazlo
>>>> is
>>>> the
>>>> java development kit consisting of the JRE and the sdk which you can
>>>> obtain
>>>> from the java website. The framework itself is very easy to master,
>>>> and
>>>> the
>>>> accompanying documentation is very good and comprehensive. Cheers!
>>>>
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