From what I was told the other day, they specifically made it where speakup and orca don't work together (you have to kill one speech dispatcher and start another one, or something), though I could be wrong.
On 12/27/2010 10:30 AM, Kerneels Roos wrote:
Thanks for the vinux list. I knew it existed but will now join it as it seems to be the place to take this discussion further and ask other questions.Vinux is a wonderful project. I got the 3.0 Libre edition, which only contains free software, but I've tried it on two machines now and it doesn't speak out of the box (people on this list previously did give me some pointers on how to get it speaking, which I have not tried yet since I do have a Ubuntu 10.04 with Orca and compiz plugins for magnification and color inversion). Perhaps the version with the non-free software included works better out of the box since it contains some non-free firmware and other low level code (does anyone know for sure)? Anyway, I'm sure there's some small problem easy to fix to get it speaking.What I was hoping for was a sort of log or journal of all the modifications done to a vanilla Ubuntu so I can attempt it on Debian and other distros. I guess the best way to find out is to poke around in Vinux to see what modifications were done there, and also to use Vinux to see what nice things have been done for you already.On my previous Ubuntu systems I could never get speakup and orca to work at the same time, but I believe vinux has sorted this out?It would be really great if Vinux could be a sort of meta package that could just be added onto whatever distro yu want, like a version for Debian, one for Ubuntu, one for Fedora etc. That way, whatever you are forced to, or choose to use you can get all the nice AT working quickly.Theoretically, if it can work on Debian it can work on all derivatives with slight modifications to compensate for distro specific configs?On 12/27/2010 6:32 PM, Alex Midence wrote:Hi, Ty. It depends on which .iso you download. The Cd version is pretty stripped down. You basically have to install everything. There are "easy install" scripts you run to make it happen. The DVD version is the one that is pretty packed. It's about 1.9 gigs. Lately, he even has a really big one which is even larger but which he says is more geared for the whole family, sighted and blind alike which is trully gigantic. The Cd version is like 600 megs or so though. It's the barebones Vinux. comes with Orca and Speakup using Gnome desktop. 3.0 also comes with Yasr (I think that's how it's spelled). Apparently stripping down the CD version any further causes complications with dependencies and such. Vinux is largely targeted at Linux newcomers as well as towards visually impaired users in general. This means that it's going to be set up as user-friendly as possible so, this translates to inclusion of as much as a new person would need to hit the ground running. There's been talk of a CLI version like they did with Debian which would, of course, be a much smaller distro but I don't think it's a priority. Tony Sales writes that there will be a meeting online where a lot of the new direction for Vinux will be discussed. He wrote that there will be lots of projects coming up. We are going to have a bonified manual in there which is going to require a team of people working towards writing it. Also, the testing of packages for accessibility with Orca and Co. will be formalized by having a team created to do this systematically. He's going to open up the development of future packages to a wider audience as well as the maintenance of the project's webpage. If anyone wants in on it, now's the time to join the list(s). Vinux is very exciting since it's an operating system specifically designed for all VI people and not just those who are advanced computer users. Also, Vinux is a distro which the Accessibility person at Ubuntu uses to test screen reader accessibility of features for possible inclusion in the main Ubuntu distribution. Pretty significant if you ask me. Regards, Alex M On 12/27/10, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hello, I think that Vinux 2.1 was debian, but they switched to Ubuntu recently--I would like to see a minimal version of Vinux put out theresometime, since the current maintainers seem to have a thing for packingit with junk I don't care to have in a Linux distro, and which caneasily be grabbed through the package manager. But before I sidetracked,2.1 was the last debian I know of, then they switched to Ubuntu. On 12/27/2010 4:14 AM, Kerneels Roos wrote:Hi list, Does anyone know if there exists a list of packages and modifications, and notes on how to make the mods which one could apply to gain the same accessibility found on Vinux but on a Debian stable distribution? I would prefer to run Debian rather than Vinux. I also understand it is possible to transform an Ubuntu system to a Vinux system by installing something like vinux-lucid (is this also available for the latest 10.10 Ubuntu named maverick)? 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