Re: Tips on laying out forms using Visual Studio 2008
- From: lras@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:54:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
I am a long-time user of W-E, but not an expert, particularly regarding
placement of controls and accessing data grids with Window-Eyes. For data
grids, some of the new scripts with W-E 7 might be helpful. I find the whole
process to be too time-consuming, and think I have other things to do with my
time. So I'm just trying to add to the information and tools people might use
successfully. At this point, you and Jamal are the experts, IMO.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ricks Place <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2008 7:06 AM
>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Tips on laying out forms using Visual Studio 2008
>
>Wow! what great information Lloyd. I might play with that some but for now
>just making my cells big enough to hold the controls and specifying the
>absolute property reads everything well. I just wanted to keep it simple.But
>there are allot of DataGridViews in third part apps that might be read
>better with those techniques.
>Thanks, sounds like you are a pro in that arena.
>Rick USA
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:53 AM
>Subject: RE: Tips on laying out forms using Visual Studio 2008
>
>
>> When, as ou cursor through a cell, Window-Eyes dings a lot, it may mean
>> that
>> the line you are on has been divided into several clips. Highlighting a
>> single letter might also cause this, but I would guess that after you draw
>> a
>> cell, an extraneous vertical line gets drawn through it, at least
>> temporarily. Try Insert-backslash to redraw the screen and see if it
>> cleans
>> up. Also try moving the mouse pointer or WE cursor by clips using
>> Insert-7,
>> -8 or -9 on the numeric pad. Knowing that W-E thinks the cell was divided
>> into smaller pieces will perhaps give you new information to work with.
>> Or
>> it may just mean that the off-screen model isn't accurate enough.
>>
>> Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, Maryland
>> Home: http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>> Work: http://www.loc.gov/nls
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-
>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricks Place
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:03 PM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Tips on laying out forms using Visual Studio 2008
>>>
>>> Hi Inthane:
>>> There are some things I found at the implementation level but I was
>>> waiting
>>> to hear back from Chris. For one thing, when defining the cells I found
>>> that
>>> specifying the cell size as absolute and specifying a pixal size read
>>> well
>>> with windoweyes where specifying it as a percent or anything else did not
>>> read well all the time. When specified as a percent one of the boxes,
>>> even
>>> though I attempted to make them large enough, would not always read what
>>> I
>>> would type in. Sometimes it read a couple of letters then ping,
>>> continuing
>>> to hit the right cursor key would then read a little more and ping again
>>> and
>>> so forth - not sure why exactly. It might not happen with JAWS but hay, I
>>> use Windoweyes so the Absolute size cells work well with properly sized
>>> controls in them and I'm a happy camper.
>>> If Chris posts again I will tell him how to position and size the
>>> TableLayoutPanel and a couple of cells and controls like a label and
>>> textbox
>>> so they read nicely.
>>> Might have someone do a jaws test to see if we can use the cell percent
>>> size
>>> allocation as well.
>>> I do like using the TableLayoutPanel now that it works, much faster than
>>> positioning by the numbers for every control.
>>> Rick USA
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