RE: Python editors
- From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:40:05 -0400
Hi,
I think you use \09 and so on as the entry in the dictionary manager where you
type in the word. But you might have to actually bring in the .jdf file into a
text editor to do something like this. I'll try to look this up when I get a
chance.
Jim
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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:24 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Python editors
Quick question - how do you add jaws dictionary entries for things like tab
characters?
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: Python editors
Hi Alex,
Yes. Go into EdSharp.jcf and change it there.
Jim
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:08 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Python editors
Ah, I found it and was able to change the indentation table to use a
single space instead of two. Now, is there a way to always have
indentation set to identify in the jaws options? Whenever I move away
from the window and back into it, my settings are set back to
defaults, which is no good because I am always popping in and out of
the window to run code at the command line, open other files, and so
on.
On 7/22/10, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> I don't know where EdSharp puts it, because I already had a version of it
> before I donated it. I think that it might get installed in your JAWS user
> enu directory.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Homme,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:54 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Python editors
>
> Sorry, where do I find it? Could I modify it to work on increments of
> one space, instead of two? Sounds like this might work out...
>
> On 7/22/10, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>> I donated a JAWS indentation scheme that comes with Python. It plays a
>> different piano note for each increment of two spaces up to 8 levels of
>> indentation, not including the left margin. All you have to do is put it
>> in
>> your scripts user directory and use the settings packager to get it
>> hooked
>> up. Then you can use it. It works great for Python. If you read someone
>> elses code, just change their indentation with a global search and
>> replace
>> to two spaces, then change back, or leave it the way it is and remember
>> what
>> you need to remember to understand how it's working.
>>
>> Jim
>> Jim Homme,
>> Usability Services,
>> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:26 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Python editors
>>
>> I am quite used to pure python, as you put it. Currently, I use
>> edsharp to write my code, manually indenting. I gave up on pybrace
>> because having two sets of files, and therefore two sets of prompts to
>> go through when trying to close, got frustrating and I found that
>> things went faster if I just wrote the python to begin with and fought
>> with indenting. If I have to check indentation, though, things get
>> difficult, especially if I am looking at someone else's code. I find
>> that most people, including myself, use spaces to indent rather than
>> tabs, so edsharp always reports an indentation level of 0. I use
>> spaces because jaws speaks both blank lines and tabs as "blank" when
>> reading character by character, whereas spaces are spoken as "space",
>> allowing me to tell what is an indent and what is a hard return when
>> reading character by character.
>>
>> On 7/22/10, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> I encourage you to stick with EdSharp, drop using PyBrace, and get used
>>> to
>>> dealing with the indentation. Either use a JAWS indentation scheme or
>>> the
>>> EdSharp ability to tell you the indent level. Also investigate the
>>> EdSharp
>>> commands that have to do with blocks of code. I really think you will be
>>> more happy in EdSharp than you will with a whole new editor. And if you
>>> get
>>> used to coding in pure Python, you won't forget to put the colons in.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Jim Homme,
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>>> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:06 AM
>>> To: programmingblind
>>> Subject: Python editors
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am wondering if there is an accessible editor specifically for
>>> Python? Edsharp's pydent/pybrace are good, but they mean you have to
>>> manage two sets of files, so if you misplace even one brace, you will
>>> freeze Edsharp.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if there is an editor that will auto-indent as you
>>> type, maybe with navigation features to move to the next highest
>>> block, or by a given block (function by function, for example)? I have
>>> never come across one, but I could have missed it...
>>>
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