There's a huge difference in the little bit of code vs adds (which can be controled) and the crap that frontpage added (I don't really consider that an IDE).
On 8/4/2011 11:00 AM, Homme, James wrote:
Hi, If you decide not to use an IDE, you get total control over exactly what code gets dumped into your application. It's difficult to know what code VS is going to add. Way back a long time ago, I started to build web pages with FrontPage, and scrapped it, because it filled my pages with all kinds of bloaty stuff. I'm in no way against using an IDE, though, as long as you know what it's going to do to your stuff. They help with productivity for sure. Jim -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:47 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Layout by code - a wonderful tool but.... Why not? What if one is more comfortable (as am I when doing C# demo projects), using an IDE? -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:39 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Layout by code - a wonderful tool but.... Hi, This is probably going to be a very silly question. Why are using VisualStudio at all with LBC? Jim -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:40 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: SV: Layout by code - a wonderfull tool but.... Hi again, Further to my problem with Layout by code. This time I tried the original FruitBasketCS program without modifications. When I go into the project properties and set output type to console application everything runs nicely, except for the anoying fact that a console window is created for the program which is not used anyway. When I change the output type to Windows Application the previously mentioned "invalid cast exception" occurs. Still, I can step through the program by using f10 and f11. In the meantime I also found out that the so-called ParkingWindow apparently seems to be an invisible window, a kind of clip-board that is used when you move controls from one window to another. I must admit that I am getting more and more confused I hope someone can help me, please. I still think that using Layout by Code would be a great way for a blind person to make a user interface with a decent layout Best regards Bue -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] På vegne af Bue Vester-Andersen Sendt: 2. august 2011 21:09 Til: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Emne: Layout by code - a wonderfull tool but.... Hi, First of all a million thanks to Jamal for his great work. LBC is just about the most fantastic programming tool I have ever stumbled upon. I am congenitally blind and have always found it next to imposible to work out a layout that would work at all. Now for my problem: I am trying to make a template for use with Visual Studio 2008 building on the template for a Windows forms application. Everything compiles fine, but when I run the resulting program I get the following exception (translated from Danish): Invalid cast exception {"an object of the type 'Microsoft.VisualStudio.HostingProcess.ParkingWindow' can not be converted to the type 'Homer.LbcForm'."} The exception occurs at the CompleteWindow() call. It looks to me as if I was referencing the form before it is actually created. The funny thing is that everything works fine when I step into the code using f10 and f11. I don't suppose there could be a race condition? Hope someone can help me. Below is the code I am using. As I said, it is built on the Windows form application template. I thought that the use of component initialization might be the cause of my trouble, so I tried to remove all the designer and component stuff, but it didn't solve anything. LbcForm1.cs using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using System.ComponentModel; using System.Data; using System.Drawing; using System.Linq; using System.Text; using System.Windows.Forms; using Homer; namespace LBCFormsApplication1 { public partial class LbcForm1 : LbcForm { public LbcForm1() { InitializeComponent(); this.Init("LbcForm1", null, null); this.AddMyControlls(); } Private void AddMyControlls() { // Add controlls here. // AddButton("ok"); } public void OnEvent(string sEvent, Control oSender, EventArgs oArgs) { // Add event code here. } } } LbcForm1.Designer.cs namespace LBCFormsApplication1 { partial class LbcForm1 { ///<summary> /// Required designer variable. ///</summary> private System.ComponentModel.IContainer components = null; ///<summary> /// Clean up any resources being used. ///</summary> ///<param name="disposing">true if managed resources should be disposed; otherwise, false.</param> protected override void Dispose(bool disposing) { if (disposing&& (components != null)) { components.Dispose(); } base.Dispose(disposing); } #region Windows Form Designer generated code ///<summary> /// Required method for Designer support - do not modify /// the contents of this method with the code editor. ///</summary> private void InitializeComponent() { this.components = new System.ComponentModel.Container(); this.AutoScaleMode = System.Windows.Forms.AutoScaleMode.Font; } #endregion } } Program.cs using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using System.Linq; using System.Windows.Forms; namespace LBCFormsApplication1 { static class Program { ///<summary> /// The main entry point for the application. ///</summary> [STAThread] static void Main() { Application.EnableVisualStyles(); Application.SetCompatibleTextRenderingDefault(false); LbcForm1 oLbcForm = new LbcForm1(); // Add further initialization here. // Uncomment to run as window. oLbcForm.CompleteWindow(); // Uncomment to run as dialog. // oLbcForm.CompleteDialog(); } } } Best regards Bue __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intended solely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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