RE: Latest Ubuntu and accessibility.
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 22:43:13 -0400
I found the 11.04 install as easy as Vinux excepting the very last part which
was pretty much graphics. When I say last part it was just the part that
tells you what is being installed. You don’t have to do anything but wait when
it gets there.
I also have had no problems updating 11.04 to the newest stuff where I do when
I use Vinux. It is important I have the latest for the stuff I am doing or I
would use Vinux.
ken
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Storm Dragon
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:17 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Latest Ubuntu and accessibility.
Hi,
You can do it from gnome terminal. In fact, it is a shell, in most cases I have
ever seen it's bash, but I think you can change that to what ever you want as
long as it's installed. Of course, the first line of your script will specify
which to use #!/bin/kash #!/bin/bash etc.
If you are trying Linux for the first time and don't have any help setting it
up you may want to give Vinux a shot. It is configured with all the
accessibility stuff already set up and leaves you free to start exploring the
system instead of trying to figure out accessibility as you go. Of course the
Ubuntu distro is a good one too if you install with the accessibility profile.
It does take a little more effort than Vinux though, the last time I tried it
any way.
HTH
Storm
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On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 01:57 +0000, Katherine Moss wrote:
So say I’m in SuSE, and I’m using Gnome, and then all of a sudden, I want to do
something real quick in say, KSH. What’s the best way to call shells from
Gnome, or are those shells accessible via the Gnome terminal?
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:51 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Latest Ubuntu and accessibility.
Yes, one very broad generalization I'll hazard to make about Linux in general
is that many tools are narrower in scope than the one-size-fits-all
applications that are more prominent on Windows. If you knew you were going to
only be working in Gnome exclusively, Orca would really be all you'd need to
know about. The Gnome Terminal would be roughly comparable to what you think of
as cmd.exe. But there are many Linux environments where a desktop like Gnome is
unnecessary or even counterproductive, in which case you can run a terminal
without their additional overhead. For this, though, you'd use Speakup for your
access needs. You end up researching and trying more focused packages in Linux
so as to piece together the combination that's ideal for the activities you're
doing, and this is why Linux is one of those things that takes more to set up
right, but when you set it up right, oftentimes it's about as good as it gets.
Ultimately a practice in cost/benefit analysis.
On 8/18/2011 9:27 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
Orca -sort of- works in the terminal. What most people do, or at least what I
did was just use speakup for the consoles and orca for gnome.
On 8/18/2011 7:25 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
Oh. So then if Gnome works with SuSE, (for I’d like to be acquainted with that
distribution), does Bash, KSH, ZSH, and Onquist also work with Orca as well?
I’m all confused over the command line in Linux and it’s accessibility
features. You know how in windows when you call CMD, you get input via the
same interface (JAWS, Window-Eyes), as you get when working with desktop and
Gui components? Does the same go for Linux? I ask because is not Emac Speak
different from Orca, and depending on which environment you want, you have to
keep switching between them? If so, then it sounds kind of cumbersome, doesn’t
it?
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:20 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Latest Ubuntu and accessibility.
You are correct, it's only Gnome for Orca users for now. As for what Unity is,
it's just a different spin on shell management. Has more features for netbooks
and touch interfaces, given their growing prominence.
On 8/18/2011 8:51 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
Now I’m trying to take steps to get myself acquainted with Linux, and I’m just
curious, what is the unity desktop? I’ve never heard of it, but I never
bothered to look it up since I’ve heard on various threads here probably, that
Gnome is the only accessible desktop for linux out there. Can somebody correct
me on that if it’s not true?
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:47 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Latest Ubuntu and accessibility.
When I installed 11.04 I installed it using the accessibility if you do that it
defaults to the classic ubuntu so it works perfect. I found that Ubuntu is
only getting better I hope 11.10 stays that way.
ken
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:24 AM
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Latest Ubuntu and accessibility.
Hi All.
At work we use a couple of Ubuntu machines which I use with ORCA. We're
currently on the 8.04 baseline but they are being upgraded to 11.04.
As I understand it this release includes the new unity desktop by default but
you can use the older style Gnome desktop. Does anyone know if this is write
and how you go about it?
Thanks.
Nick.
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