Re: Language behind BitTorrent
- From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:43:54 -0200
Hello,
Only to make things cleearer, please substitute this:
I think that, if you're
to work with C, there's no a mid place to stay ... or you're very good
on it or you won't succeed in finding a job or having satisfactory
results in your programs ...
from my last message to
I think that, if one is to work with C, there's no a mid place to stay
... or they're very good
on it or they won't succeed in finding a job or having satisfactory
results in their programs ...
Marlon
2007/12/3, Marlon Brandão de Sousa <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Hello Jamal,
> If they're using the win32 api I see no reazons to rewrite parts of
> the C runtime library, since they can just link to the Microsoft one
> as a dll, and this is guaranteed to be present in almost every windows
> instalation, thus making necessary only the distribution of the
> executable.
> What I like about C and c++ is that ... yes, most part of languages
> now adays are more apropriate to use in most part of situations, if we
> take in acount the sppeed and the easier interface they offer ... but
> when a really special requirement comes, when a really complex need
> arises, when something pretty hard, fast and stable needs to be done,
> then C and c++ are there, ready to be used and provide a way to solve
> the problem. I don't think C is used to most part of things now adays,
> but when no other language can provide a solution for a big problem C
> is still there.
> This creates a strange situation, in the sense that a C developper
> won't meet a very big market for emploiment, if we compare it with,
> let's say, the java one, but a C developer will ikely be necessary in
> a complex or very low level senarius, and then the C developper will
> need to really know what he /r she is doing, because whatever it is it
> won't work if the developer isn't good enough. I think that, if you're
> to work with C, there's no a mid place to stay ... or you're very good
> on it or you won't succeed in finding a job or having satisfactory
> results in your programs ...
> Marlon
> 2007/12/2, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > Octavian's question about this got me Googling for answers, and I think I
> > found one at
> >
> http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#How_can_.C2.B5Torrent_be_so_small_and_so_fast.3F
> >
> > Before the current, 6.0 version BitTorrent was open source written in
> > Python with GTK as a GUI library. Now it is proprietary, closed C++ code
> > that omits standard C++ libraries, replacing them with custom routines as
> > needed (the company bought the "UTorrent/MuTorrent" codebase and is now
> > using it instead). The executable is then compressed with the Ultimate
> > Packer for Executables utility (UPX).
> >
> > Thus, BitTorrent shows how small and fast a C++ application can be.
> > Realistically, however, this approach is only for C++ experts who can
> > selectively write all needed low level routines so that the standard
> > libraries may be omitted. I assume that BitTorrent uses the Win32 API
> > directly for building user interface elements, which also requires expert
> > C++ coding with only the memory structures and window messages needed.
> >
> > Jamal
> >
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