Re: Debugging EdSharp and NVDA problem on Win64
- From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:45:43 -0500
Yes, it does work! This is with the dll files as they were originally,
not renamed. The 64-bit version, and the one that does not specify 32
or 64 bit, still both fail, but the 32-bit version works.
The sayline.exe failure was with jaws. Sorry, I should have mentioned that.
On 2/9/11, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Also curious whether SayLine.exe crashes with JAWS as well as NVDA.
> On Wed,
> 9 Feb 2011, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:07:40 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Debugging EdSharp and NVDA problem on Win64
>>
>> I've just uploaded a new EdSharp distribution. Does EdSharp32.exe work
>> with
>> both NVDA and JAWS now? If there is an error message when exiting, can
>> you
>> capture that?
>>
>> Jamal
>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Alex Hall wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:52:57 -0500
>>> From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Debugging EdSharp and NVDA problem on Win64
>>>
>>> Edsharp only seemed to work with the 32 bit version. However, that
>>> version crashed when exiting, no matter what screen reader was in use.
>>> The 64 bit one worked with jaws, but not with nvda unless I renamed
>>> the dlls so that the 32-bit one had an underscore in its name and the
>>> 64-bit one had been renamed to match the 32-bit one's name. However,
>>> this only worked in that it did not crash; it still did not use nvda's
>>> speech, defaulting to sapi5 instead.
>>>
>>> On 2/9/11, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Alex! So did EdSharp32.exe work the best with NVDA? Did it
>>>> work normally until you tried to close EdSharp? Does JAWS work with all
>>>> three versions or just some of them?
>>>>
>>>> Jamal
>>>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:24:13 -0500
>>>>> From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: Debugging EdSharp and NVDA problem on Win64
>>>>>
>>>>> About boxes:
>>>>> 32-bit:
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> About
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> EdSharp 3.3
>>>>>
>>>>> February 9, 2011
>>>>>
>>>>> Copyright 2007 - 2011 by Jamal Mazrui
>>>>>
>>>>> GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL)
>>>>>
>>>>> The executable contains only Microsoft intermediate language (MSIL),
>>>>> and is therefore neutral with respect to 32-bit or 64-bit platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> The executable can be run on a 32-bit platform, or in the 32-bit
>>>>> Windows on Windows (WOW) environment on a 64-bit platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Targets a 32-bit Intel processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running in 32-bit mode.
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> OK
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> When I tried to close the program, I got an error, but the "copy to
>>>>> clipboard" button caused the program to become unresponsive, then it
>>>>> went away and I was back in the list of edSharp files with no error
>>>>> report on my clipboard. This was with jaws, so there should not have
>>>>> been a problem with nvda dll files (which are still renamed to force
>>>>> edsharp to use the 64-bit dll as the 32-bit).
>>>>>
>>>>> 64-bit:
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> About
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> EdSharp 3.3
>>>>>
>>>>> February 9, 2011
>>>>>
>>>>> Copyright 2007 - 2011 by Jamal Mazrui
>>>>>
>>>>> GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL)
>>>>>
>>>>> The executable contains only Microsoft intermediate language (MSIL),
>>>>> and is therefore neutral with respect to 32-bit or 64-bit platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> The executable requires a 64-bit platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Targets a 64-bit AMD processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running in 64-bit mode.
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> OK
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> This exited normally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Default File (no bit version specified):
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> About
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> EdSharp 3.3
>>>>>
>>>>> February 9, 2011
>>>>>
>>>>> Copyright 2007 - 2011 by Jamal Mazrui
>>>>>
>>>>> GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL)
>>>>>
>>>>> The executable contains only Microsoft intermediate language (MSIL),
>>>>> and is therefore neutral with respect to 32-bit or 64-bit platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Targets a 32-bit Intel processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running in 64-bit mode.
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> OK
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> This also exited normally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ready for the weird part? I started up edsharp32.exe again, this time
>>>>> having put the nvda dlls back to how they are supposed to be, and
>>>>> everything worked perfectly with nvda running! I then repeated the
>>>>> process with jaws running and got the same error, and inability to
>>>>> capture said error, that I reported above. It seems that the 32-bit
>>>>> version works until you try to close it, then it locks up for a moment
>>>>> and quits.
>>>>>
>>>>> I then did this in a command prompt:
>>>>> cd "c:\program files (x86)\edsharp"
>>>>> sayline.exe hello
>>>>> I got an error:
>>>>> SayLine.exe - Application Error
>>>>> The application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b). Click
>>>>> OK to close the application.
>>>>> OK
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/9/11, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Also, can you copy and paste the relevant About Box info for each
>>>>>> EdSharp
>>>>>> version?
>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:02:06 -0500 (EST)
>>>>>>> From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Debugging EdSharp and NVDA problem on Win64
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks. Can you also report on EdSharp32.exe and SayLine.exe?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jamal
>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:59:14 -0500
>>>>>>>> From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Debugging EdSharp and NVDA problem on Win64
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I upgraded and ran whatever launches by default. As soon as I
>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>> opening a file from Explorer, I got an error, the one with the
>>>>>>>> "mail
>>>>>>>> to developer", "copy to clipboard", and so on. As usual, doing
>>>>>>>> anything here caused a second error, and doing anything in that
>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>> error exited back to the Explorer window.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I then manually launched the 64-bit program from the EdSharp
>>>>>>>> folder in
>>>>>>>> c:\program files (x86). Using nvda, I hit alt-a and got the same
>>>>>>>> "unexpected event" dialog I always get. I shut down nvda, opened
>>>>>>>> jaws,
>>>>>>>> and copied to clipboard. Here is what I got:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format.
>>>>>>>> (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stack trace:
>>>>>>>> at EdSharp.Win32.nvdaController_speakText(String sText)
>>>>>>>> at EdSharp.Util.Say(Object oText, Boolean bGlobal)
>>>>>>>> at EdSharp.MdiFrame.SetStatusAddress(Object sender, EventArgs
>>>>>>>> e)
>>>>>>>> at EdSharp.MdiFrame.menuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
>>>>>>>> at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key,
>>>>>>>> EventArgs
>>>>>>>> e)
>>>>>>>> at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
>>>>>>>> at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
>>>>>>>> at EdSharp.MdiFrame.ProcessCmdKey_Helper(Message& msg, Keys
>>>>>>>> keyData)
>>>>>>>> at EdSharp.HomerRichTextBox.ProcessCmdKey(Message& msg, Keys
>>>>>>>> keyData)
>>>>>>>> at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessMessage(Message&
>>>>>>>> msg)
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessControlMessageInternal(Control
>>>>>>>> target, Message& msg)
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.PreTranslateMessage(MSG&
>>>>>>>> msg)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally, I renamed the 32-bit nvda controller dll with an
>>>>>>>> underscore
>>>>>>>> so edSharp would not find it, then renamed the 64-bit one to
>>>>>>>> match the
>>>>>>>> old name of the 32-bit one. This time, when I re-launched the
>>>>>>>> 64-bit
>>>>>>>> version of edsharp, I got no errors. However, edSharp defaulted
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> sapi5 instead of using nvda speech. Since all I have is Anna,
>>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>>> not an optimal solution. At least things do not crash, though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/9/11, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I would like to resolve the problem of using NVDA with EdSharp
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> 64-bit
>>>>>>>>> Windows. Whatever the cause(s) of the present
>>>>>>>>> incompatibility, I hope
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> can collaborate to get to the bottom of it, and find a
>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have just posted a new EdSharp distribution at the usual
>>>>>>>>> address,
>>>>>>>>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/edsetup.exe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or press F11 to Elevate from an existing installation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The About Box (Help/About or Alt+F1) has been enhanced to show
>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>> information at the bottom. It will say whether the EdSharp
>>>>>>>>> executable
>>>>>>>>> requires 32-bit Windows, 64-bit Windows, or works on either.
>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>> targeted
>>>>>>>>> to a particular platform, that CPU will be stated. The
>>>>>>>>> current mode
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> operation, 32 or 64-bit, will also be stated. You can press
>>>>>>>>> Control+C
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> copy the contents of the message box to the clipboard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> EdSharp.exe is compiled to work on either 32 or 64-bit
>>>>>>>>> Windows. Two
>>>>>>>>> additional executables are currently included, EdSharp32.exe
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> EdSharp64.exe, which require the indicated platform.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A simple way of testing NVDA compatibility is with the Address
>>>>>>>>> command,
>>>>>>>>> Alt+A. If NVDA does not work with EdSharp.exe, please try
>>>>>>>>> manually
>>>>>>>>> launching EdSharp32.exe or EdSharp64.exe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If neither of those work, try copying
>>>>>>>>> nvdaControllerClient64.dl over
>>>>>>>>> nvdaControllerClient32.dll.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also try one of the SayTools utilities that has been included,
>>>>>>>>> SayLine.exe, e.g., with the command-line syntax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SayLine.exe Hello world
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please report your results.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jamal
>>>>>>>>>
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