I will have a look around I might be able to dig up some old ones. I wish the old blind programming site was around because it had some of the old corenado ones up there that were free but I have found other good ones out there in the past I just need to go look again. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:12 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: C/C++ Compilers. was: In regards to my giving up on programming? Ken: Thanks! I'm unable to buy Coronado tutorials. When I click on "Purchase Programming tutorials" I get an error message. The error message is related to the web server configuration. I have contacted them but not heard anything so far. Do you know of other good C books/tutorials (free or paid) ? I searched on google and I may have found one that's targeted towards complete beginners. I also found one that seemed nice, but all code examples were png files... -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: 6. juli 2010 00:47 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: C/C++ Compilers. was: In regards to my giving up on programming? Sorry I didn't answer this faster it went into my junk box which I check at the end of the week. The mingw compiler is just a port of g++ to windows. The cygwin g++ is actually a port of linux to windows thus g++ is compiled in linux under windows so it?s a roundabout way of doing the same thing that mingw did. The big difference comes in when you try to sell software you compile with each. Cygwin.dll is a copywrited dll and will cost around $5000 if you want to release software compiled against it. So if you create software in Cygwin and try to sell it you're going to get screwed unless you open source it and let people compile it. As for mingw it does not have this stipulation unless you somehow compile in the cygwin.dll which some people have done from time to time. So if you use mingw your better off in the long run if compiling in windows. One problem though is you don't get all the cool tools as you do with cygwin unless you install mysys which some people do from the mingw site. I personally like using the cygwin tools over mysys but I make sure I don't compile against the cygwin.dll. Anyway I have said all that to say if your learning it don't matter which you use if you're making software to sell it matters. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 4:21 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: C/C++ Compilers. was: In regards to my giving up on programming? Hi Ken: >> The problem with starting with higher level languages is you miss some real >> structure I am not going to go back into the debate. I have said what I >> think is the best cores and people can take it or leave it. I'm going to try C and C++. I've already played with some C++ code and compiled it using gcc/g++ on Cygwin and on a Linux box. What's the difference between installing gcc/g++ in Cygwin to use MinGW? Or should I choose a completely different compiler? Now I'm off to download the evaluation chapters of the Coronado C tutorial... I might download the C++ tutorial as well, though I've decided to actually dive into C first. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind