Re: Accessible drawing tool for the blind

  • From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:15:47 -0600

Hi, Marvin,

Don't have the link off hand but you might try Deep View in
conjunction with Graph Viz.  You create your flow chart in Deep View
then, export to graphviz.  In graphviz, run the file as png, gif, jpg
or gif.  Or, oyu might look into how to script your flow chart using
graph viz syntax.  From what I gather, you create textfiles using a
scripting language that then renders what you write into a graphical
file.  Lastly, you can create your process diagram in word 2007.
Don't know if that's  a full-fledged flow chart though like the one in
deep view.  In the insert ribbon, arrow down into the ribbon and tab
to the smart art dot dot dot dialog.  Process diagram is two down from
where you are at this point.  Hit enter on it and you are in a window
jaws says is a tree view.  (I use Jaws, sorry,  don't know what you
use)  You will be able to type your steps one line at a time.  Be sure
to number them so people know what comes first.  You will not be able
to use screen navigation or arrow navigation to check your work so
take pains not to make typos.  When you are done with your last step,
press escape to get out of the dialog you are in.  Word draws side by
side boxes with your steps with two boxes to a line.  Ive used this
diagram in curriculum as a visual aid and my sighted students claim it
is effective.  That's all I know though, sorry.


Alex M
Best I got, sorry.

On 12/10/10, FreeLists Mailing List Manager <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> programmingblind Digest       Fri, 10 Dec 2010        Volume: 04  Issue: 359
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> In This Issue:
>               accessible drawing tool for the blind
>               Re: switching pages in a web site to use Silverlight 3 inste
>
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>
> From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: accessible drawing tool for the blind
> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:09:20 +1100
>
> ?hi.
> was not there a person, designing an accessible drawing package with a
> screen reader, called intercommunication draw 2.
> what is the status of this project.
> do you have any contact details for this student, and let me know.
> any tips would be helpful.
> is visio accessible with jaws.
> need to draw flow charts for my help desk course from http://www.oten.edu.au
> marvin.
>
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>
> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: switching pages in a web site to use Silverlight 3 instead of
> Adob
> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:08:40 +0200
>
> Not really sure since I just include the soundManager script etc. in my
> pages:
> http://blindza.co.za/RTDrums/
> http://www.blindza.co.za/noughtsAndCrosses/
> While a screenreader will tell you the flash object is there, I don't think
> sighted people really see it as such, but I suppose they might still get
> security warnings or something sometimes - but I don't really know since
> this is really the most I've ever done with regard to flash myself.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Katherine Moss
>   To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:26 AM
>   Subject: RE: switching pages in a web site to use Silverlight 3 instead of
> Adobe flash?
>
>
>   Thanks.  That does sort of apply.  But look at my first reason for hating
> flash.  According to Randy Abrams of Eset LLC, it's "The spy in your
> computer."  Does the mechanism you specify to hide the flash object also
> hide any security holes from being able to become active that the user may
> be unaware of?
>
>
>
>   From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>   Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:33 PM
>   To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: Re: switching pages in a web site to use Silverlight 3 instead of
> Adobe flash?
>
>
>
>   Not necessarily too relevant, but what I did on my drumming and noughts
> and crosses pages was use JQuery to control playback from an embedded/hidden
> flash object implemented by a thing called soundManager, and it lets you do
> things like set volume, pan stereo, play, pause, etc., and I used it since
> it sort of hides the flash object, can preload sound clips, and I used
> javascript via JQuery to control sound usage/playback.
>
>
>
>   Stay well
>
>
>   Jacob Kruger
>   Blind Biker
>   Skype: BlindZA
>   '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     From: RicksPlace
>
>     To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>     Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:47 AM
>
>     Subject: Re: switching pages in a web site to use Silverlight 3 instead
> of Adobe flash?
>
>
>
>     Hi Katherine: I am not sure about just adding a Silverlight Player to a
> page. Coding for Silverlight, native code, is done in a subset of WPF which
> has not been very accessible in Visual Studio. I don't know how accessible
> it is in VS 2010 or any of the other Development Packages that work with
> Silverlight for 2010 - I think that would be version 3 or so. If you find a
> canned Silverlight Player you can encorporate in your page let me know since
> I would like to do something like that myself and might even create a little
> tutorial on the experience.
>
>     Well, That's all I have, sorry it isn't much.
>
>     Rick USA
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>
>       From: Katherine Moss
>
>       To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>       Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 4:47 PM
>
>       Subject: switching pages in a web site to use Silverlight 3 instead of
> Adobe flash?
>
>
>
>       Hi guys,
>
>       This has been bothering me for quite a while now.  I'm certainly no
> programmer, not yet at least, and I'll never be one professionally, but I do
> enjoy coding to say the least.  I'd like to know something.  Mojo Portal,
> the CMS off of which my web site is based (it's about technology with a
> primary focus on accessibility), has some flash elements in it, and I don't
> really like that for a number of reasons going in order from most important
> to least important:
>
>       Flash exhibits many security holes, and I want to protect my
> users/viewers
>
>       Flash is not the most accessible thing in the world for JAWS users
>
>       Flash is not a viable option when it's installer is not accessible and
> the plugin for Firefox is unstable
>
>
>
>       I've not heard of a single issue like this with Silverlight.  I know
> that this may sound strange, but one of my proposals for the web site
> downloads page, which is a separate page due to the fact that some of it
> branches in a few directions, is to have video/audio live demos of Operating
> system functionality, apps, and other related media content.  I'd like that
> to be done in Silverlight.  Any feedback on this would be greatly
> appreciated.  To see the site, go to www.raeder24.org.
>
>
>
>       Thanks,
>
>       Katherine
>
>
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