[powerdot] Re: powerdot has been broken on texlive 2013 for 5 months

  • From: Hendri Adriaens <spotje@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: powerdot <powerdot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 07:23:16 +0100

Hi Scott,

thanks for the extra information, good to know! I will come in handy
with other questions related to texlive.

Best,
-Hendri.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Scott Kostyshak <skostysh@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Hendri,
>
> Glad it worked out. Thanks for letting me know. I'll add some more
> details below because it sounds like you're interested (but feel free
> to ignore it):
>
> TeX Live has an updater also that works perfectly for me ('tlmgr').
> The issue I think is more of a Linux vs. Windows thing. Since on Linux
> many software is free, it's possible to have a central repository. The
> nice thing is that one can install software very easily and be
> confident that everything will work well together (such as library
> dependencies and stuff like that). For example, the command I would
> use to install TeX Live, LyX, and Chromium is 'sudo apt-get install
> texlive-full lyx chromium-browser'). Also it saves time because you
> don't have to go to individual website, and all updates of your
> software are handled for you. If my computer dies and I want to do a
> fresh install, I just run one long command like the one above that
> installs all the software and everything is taken care of
> automatically. So there are a lot of nice things, but in some cases
> things get tricky when something else once to manage updates.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Hendri Adriaens <spotje@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> thanks for the kind words! Indeed, it was pstricks that got
>> restructured, leading to failures in more packages. I fixed it (and
>> more) between last christmas and new year. Roger already sent me
>> personally that he expected texlive to be updated. Thanks very much
>> for your explanation in this matter as I don't know texlive because
>> I'm using miktex (on windows), which has the miktex updater to get the
>> latest updates.
>>
>> I expect the problem to be solved completely now, thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>> -Hendri.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Scott Kostyshak <skostysh@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi Roger,
>>>
>>> Your document compiles fine here (Ubuntu with an up-to-date TeX Live
>>> installation). I think the underlying issue is what I reported
>>> reported a couple of months ago, and Hendri was *extremely* fast in
>>> responding and subsequently getting a fix out (thank you Hendri!). I'm
>>> not even sure that the underlying problem was Powerdot's fault --- one
>>> of the underlying packages was restructured.
>>>
>>> Thus, you are using an out-of-date TeX Live installation. This is the
>>> responsibility of the package manager of whatever package contains
>>> powerdot on Fedora. What can Hendri do if they're not using the latest
>>> version?
>>>
>>> The root problem of this is that you're not using tlmgr to update your
>>> TeX Live installation. Linux package managers want to be the only
>>> managers of the system so that they can make sure everything plays
>>> nice together. But this leads to problems.
>>>
>>> One solution is to tell Fedora's package manager that you have a local
>>> installation of TeX Live. Then, Fedora's package manager will not try
>>> to install dependencies that are already satisfied by your local
>>> install. On Ubuntu, you can install TeX Live and notify Ubuntu's
>>> package manager all with one command. See
>>> https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
>>> This has been tested and it works well for many users.
>>> I'm guessing this would not be too hard to port to Fedora.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Hendri Adriaens <spotje@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Did you use the version uploaded on 1/1/2014?
>>>>
>>>> -Hendri.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Roger Griffiths
>>>> <griffiths.roger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Even the simplest file will not 'compile'; errors in the ps2pdf process.
>>>>> I saw that there were some issues on ctan, but I run fedora and get my
>>>>> texlive files via their repositories.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even a files such as this will not work:
>>>>>
>>>>> \documentclass{powerdot}
>>>>>
>>>>> \title{Powerdot Test}
>>>>> \author{Roger}
>>>>> \date{March 2014}
>>>>> \begin{document}
>>>>>   \maketitle
>>>>>   \section{First section}
>>>>>   \begin{slide}{Your Name Here \$ 5.00}
>>>>>     \begin{itemize}
>>>>>       \item This is an item
>>>>>       \item second item
>>>>>       \pause
>>>>>       \item Third item
>>>>>     \end{itemize}
>>>>>   \end{slide}
>>>>> \end{document}
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this going to ever get resolved?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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