[phoenix-project] Fwd: Re: An interesting "virtual lab" setup
- From: Shashidharan Nair <ck.shashidharan@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: phoenix-project@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:21:51 +0530
Just remembered, there was a little online demo in this line by Dr Ajith
sometime back, in the phoenix era. I just dug out this post for reference
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From: Ajith Kumar <ajith@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 16 December 2007 13:42
Subject: [phoenix-project] Re: online phoenix
To: phoenix-project@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Arani Chakravarti wrote:
Dear All,
I think one of the most important uses of the web-based effort would
be to teach people how to do the same with their own lab set-up, i.e.
the CGI or other programmes, etc. I had a Ph.D. student who was a
school teacher (he is with us now). He could not come to the lab every
day. The web-based approach would allow him to use his slow dial-up
connection from his home to check the status of the run and vary
parameters (temperature, closeness of data points, etc.) from time
to time. This then becomes an enabling technology which opens up
lab experimentation to people who are far away. Collaborators can
also participate in such experiments from different locations. I request
Ajith to make the code available on-line
This is how it is done.
A user named apache is created.
Apache web server is installed. Under Slackware the document root is
/vwr/www/htdocs and the 'cgi-script' directory
is /var/www-cgi-bin.
A user named apache is created with '/var/www/htdocs' as home directory.
The program <http://www.iuac.res.in/phoenix/cap.py>is kept is cgi-bin
directory. It needs a bit of polishing.
That's all about it.
This will be included in the next version of the Phoenix Live CD so that
people can try it out by running it on their LAN,
To run on the net you need a static IP address.
ajith
and to write a tutorial on
this; I know he is very busy, but please ..
Arani
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On 30 December 2013 23:06, Pramode C.E <mail@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Georges Khaznadar <
> georges.khaznadar@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Pramode C.E a écrit :
>> > Check out:
>> >
>> > http://news.stanford.edu/news/2013/december/lab-ina-box-120613.html
>>
>> The ideas about remote experiments are always very interesting, and
>> specially in the educational context.
>>
>> However I strongly disagree with the "advance" presented in this
>> e-paper: when results from a real experiment are casted into a static
>> collection of documents, the work that students can do with it is only
>> documentary or encyclopedic work; it is intisically different from
>> performing an experiment, even if you try to mix it with the MOOC hype.
>>
>
> I too have my reservations regarding this; but then, in a MOOC context, we
> are
> talking of tens of thousands of students - it would be really tough to
> give ALL these
> participants remote access to real, physical experimental apparatus.
>
>>
>> My intuition is that we should give our students an opportunity to create
>> remotely accessible experiments by themselves; such an experiment
>> ultimately costs an expEyes box, a webcam, a network-enabled computer
>> (no keyboard, no mouse, no display) and a network access, plus a few
>> external components to do the physics.
>>
>
> This is the ideal situation - but the question again remains as to how do
> we give simultaneous access to a very large number of people?
>
> regards,
> pramode
>
>
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