It certainly seems that way. Countless times (even after much searching and/or attempts to fix an issue), just after I finally decide to post, whatever issue it was is fixed! That's just too coincidental! I don't understand why they even need a security certificate in the first place. Nor do I understand why just starting FF to a blank page would cause the error/warning--I think it's pretty obvious that tells you that the plug-ins "call home" every time to start FF. That would explain it. But still doesn't explain why they'd need a security cert. -Clint God Bless, Clint Hamilton, Owner www.OrpheusComputing.com www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com www.OrpheusComputing.com/most_reliable_cheapest_webhosting.html www.OrpheusComputing.com/office/computer_accessories.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Moore" Clint, they were just waiting for you to complain. ;-) From the google results it looks like this popped up again in the middle of May. Maybe this is going to happen every May when they don't renew their security certificate. I assume it costs money to renew. Glad they got it fixed. Ben -----Original Message----- The warning pop-up message is still gone. I don't get it. I saw this at http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/828588 : "This problem has now been fixed by KallOut.com and you should not see it again. We apologize for the problem which was due to us missing the notification from GoDaddy.com that a security certificate for fvd.kallout.con and bestguess4.kallout.com was expiring." .....but that was from a year ago! Apparently it happened again. ? I find it hard to believe that kallout.com fixed this just as I posted the message. -Clint ----- Original Message ----- Actually no. While I always search first, this time seemed to be more of a "proprietary issue" so I didn't check. Yeah, FVD is installed. But, I use it. Now that I think about it and looked at it again, it actually never worked! Get a load of this......this issue has been going on for WEEKS, it was still happening just before I posted that, and I just now opened FF to disable FVD and no pop-up! WTH??? I checked for an update to FVD, there was one and I installed it to see if that would help. But won't know since the warning has apparently mysteriously vanished! Maybe the update will get FVD to actually work now. I restarted FF, closed it, started again, warning is still gone. Maybe that will get rid of it permanently. <confused> Thanks Ben, -Clint ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Moore" I'm sure you've googled this. There are a lot of people with the same problem. Do you have fast video download helper installed? Try uninstalling it. I think that is what fvd stands for. Ben Moore -----Original Message----- More FireFox problems. Every single time I try and open FF, I get this annoying pop-up warning about some security certificate being expired/invalid! The stupid thing about it is I don't even have a home page set for it, it opens in a totally BLANK window! The pop-up says, "Secure Connection Failed", and mentions "fvd.kallout.com", "Issued by GoDaddy", and "certificates.GoDaddy.com". Ok, so I go to the cert list to try and remove it, and NONE of those are even listed anywhere! Nothing starts with "fvd", no "certificates.", and nothing from GoDaddy! So then how am I supposed to stop this annoyance? Thanks, -Clint ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-