For me, its not an issue of not trusting what's being sent. Think about it... out of all the people that use the Windows XP OS, which is a lot, the one's who have it legitimately (read: non-pirated) probably most send the reports. The opposition does not, for obvious (and probably false) fears. But, for the ones tat do send the report, I'd say that there are A LOT of reports sent. There are, in my opinion, too many for Microsoft to go through. I know that don't actually sit there and go through the reports... its all software-based, I'm sure. And, I would say that it probably just hangs onto the info until a they have so many error reports of a particular application or program. Who knows. I'm not MS. These are just my views. But, since I don't know, I can't say how they handle these processes. If you know for sure how they handle it, then great. If the reports help, as you're reporting, then they should be sent. I just wish MS would do a better job explaining or demonstrating the possible success or failure of this feature. ::: Troth ::: ______________________ ICQ: 1717439 MSN: SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxx Yahoo IM: SirTroth AIM/AOL: SirTrothX ______________________ ::: Original Message ::: Sent Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:14:04 -0500 by David F Wooledge | Troth and others, | I disagree about sending the bug reports to Microsoft. It does indeed | assist the program developers. Also if the program is not a Microsoft | program, often Microsoft is able to contact the developers of the program | and inform them the program is crashing and possible reasons and fixes. | It does not purposefully collect identifying or personal information. | There are options to read exactly what is sent prior to sending; If | personal or identifying information is included that one does not want to | send, the option is there not to send the report. People complain about | Microsoft programs containing bugs and security flaws. With codes for | these programs reaching into the millions of lines I think it would | impossible to release totally bug free programs. Also Microsoft has no | control over non-Microsoft programs that cause the OS to crash. Here is | a method for people to help identify the problems and provide information | for Microsoft and other companies to improve the products people complain | about , yet continue to use. And yes there are alternatives to | Microsoft DOS and Windows, Linux (many varieties) and other open source | software, Solaris, IBM OS\2, OS\2 WARP, Apple, to name a handful. I do | understand not wanting to take the time to check what is being sent and | not wanting to take the time for the report to be sent. I am not saying | everyone should always send the reports. I do know software companies | that have been notified of problems identified through this process. | Also I have had some applications that always crashed, that I would send | reports about, stop crashing after updates were applied. I like to think | that sending in the error reports helped fix these problems. Sometimes, | after sending in a report, Microsoft provides a link with instructions to | fix the bug. It might involve installing an update or scanning for and | removing a virus, worm or trojan. Just my thoughts, not wanting to start | a debate. | Dave | http://www.geocities.com/wooledge001_/ | http://www.mental-health-advocate.us | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: ~OoO~ | To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 11:49 PM | Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: microsoft - windows crash | | | When your system or app crashes, and you get one of those nice little | popups | asking whether or not you'd like to report it, don't bother. Its supposed | to | help MS in the development and bug swatting, but I personally think its a | load | of crud. | Regarding the update... I wouldn't bother with it neither. Instead, go to | the | Windows Update site (START > ALL PROGRAMS > WINDOWS UPDATE) update | whatever it | is that's listed as needing updating. If that script engine is important, | it'll | generally be there. | | ::: Troth ::: | ______________________ | ICQ: 1717439 | MSN: SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxx | Yahoo IM: SirTroth | AIM/AOL: SirTrothX | To unsub or change your email settings: | //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk | | To access our Archives: | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ | //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ | | For more info: | //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk