-=PCTechTalk=- Re: california spam law: :VSMail mx2
- From: ~OoO~ <SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:45:54 -0400
The best thing about this is the sender of the SPAM never actually knows
where the recipient's live. So it'll positively affect all email users.
---Troth
At 9/26/2003 10:24 AM, you wrote:
>Probably all the biggies at once... and the race is on..
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "cris" <cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:03 AM
>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: california spam law: :VSMail mx2
>
>
> > ok, I'll bite!! Earthlink?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James LaBorde
> > To: 'pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:39 PM
> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: california spam law: :VSMail mx2
> >
> >
> > There is a difference and when you read the long text of the actual =
> > bill
> > they explain it. The difference is that the costs are shifted to the
> > recipient rather than the sender. In junk mail, the costs are postage =
> > to
> > the sender and the only cost is of disposing of it. In email the =
> > recipient
> > pays for bandwidth, used HD space, used storage space on the mail =
> > server
> > etc. They try to make it equivalent to receiving junk mail with =
> > postage
> > due. =20
> >
> > I find the interesting part of the law that any one of three parties =
> > can go
> > after the spammer and/or the advertiser. The three parties include:
> >
> > the individual receiving the email
> > the ISP of the recipient
> > the Attorney General of California
> >
> > The penalty specified is actual damages or $1000 per incident per email
> > address. I didn't see much as far as when which penalty is applied. =
> > The
> > great thing is that the burden of proof is all on the =
> > spammer/advertiser.
> > They have to prove they had your permission and they have to prove that =
> > they
> > provided all of the necessary steps to opt out and had the initial =
> > business
> > relationship with you to begin with.
> >
> > Any bets on which ISP files the first lawsuit on January 2, 2004 when =
> > the
> > courts open?
> >
> > James=20
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kg6ocz [mailto:kg6ocz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:25 PM
> > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: california spam law: :VSMail mx2
> >
> >
> > Do you REALLY expect ANYTHING the Gov does to make sense????
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Danny Wilsher" <dwilsher@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:22 PM
> > Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: california spam law:
> >
> >
> > > what about all the mail I get in my snail mail box? is that any =
> > different?
> > > how can they pass a law banning one and not the other? just
> > curious........
> > > =D0=E4=F1=F1=FF ..............
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "cris" <cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "PCTechTalk" <PCTechTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:47 AM
> > > Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- california spam law:
> > >
> > >
> > > : Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > : charset=3D"Windows-1252"
> > > : Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > > : from: http://www.spywareinfo.com/
> > > :
> > > : California Bans Spam. All Of It.
> > > : Permlink | Top
> > > :
> > > : California Governor Gray Davis has signed a law that criminalizes =
> > the =3D
> > > : sending of commercial email to people who have not explicitly =
> > requested
> > =3D
> > > : it. There are no exceptions to this law, no loopholes to exploit. =
> > If it
> > =3D
> > > : is an email sent in bulk, advertises any product and the recipient =
> > did =3D
> > > : not request it, a crime has been committed.=3D20
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