-=PCTechTalk=- Re: anti virus
- From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <nunyabidness6@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:16:45 -0500
Here as well. No question that Norton's is the best or that McAfee's is
highly overrated. Norton's is also the most expensive and most hard on
computer resources. I think the biggest problem people have with AVG is
that they forget that it *can* catch virii on the fly, but that to be
effective it HAS to be updated REGULARLY and that it has to do a full scan
REGULARLY to catch those dormant ones.
Here, not many attempts get through due to safe computing practices.
However, a few attempts lately have been caught before they hit the system
via my "mail to me" filters in Mailwasher and due to the fact that Calypso
is a plain text email program, renames *every* attachment and has an
*encrypted* addressbook. Even the best antivirus program won't catch the
new virus before the definitions are updated or the dormant ones before the
payload is activated. Antivirus protection, like trojan protection, is a
*policy*, not an installed solution.
HTML mail (with or without preview) is a risk. OE, Windows, and Outlook
address books are a risk. Spam and redirects via email are a risk.
Attachments that come inline or without renaming (ANY attachment) are a
risk. Websites and web bugs on a system that allows *any* scripting are a
risk. Active X is a risk. You have to attack a multiple capability
problem with a multi-front policy if you really want to be safe.
Before you argue, consider that on three machines here and three others in
different places - all using the same policy - no virus or trojan has
successfully run for over three years. You need a good Antivirus and you
need a good trojan scanner, but if you want to be really safe, you need a
good surfing and email policy. With the new breed of virii, by the time
the AV catches it, it may be too late.
On 8/3/2003 at 3:19 PM a whisper was heard, and the one known as kg6ocz was
rumoured to have uttered....
| Wellllllllllll I think there is a downside to
| almost every program.. This
| same site recommends Panda which I tried and it slowed down my
| computer SO
| bad I had to dump it..I wouldn't touch McAfee with a ten foot
| pole--it let
| too much stuff thru. Several of things listed as Cons for AVG
| I haven't
| found to be true at all..So I think it's the same thing..each
| to his own..
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Grant Karpik" <gkarpik@xxxxxxxxx>
| To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 2:21 PM
| Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: anti virus
|
|
| > On 3 Aug 2003 at 11:17, kg6ocz wrote:
| >
| > > Wellll my first question would be because it on some web
| site does that
| > > mean what they say is TRUE? only ONE web site? And WHO is
| saying it?
| > > Now if I was researching trusted web sites and 8 out of 10
| made such a
| > > statement I would think maybe there might be some
| validity..but some web
| > > site somewhere doesn't prove a THING.
| >
| > A number of serious (as opposed to places like Cnet or
| ZDnet) ant-virus
| sites rate AVG
| > as being pretty poor in their tests. Here's one:
| >
| >
|
http://www.software-antivirus.com/program/avg-antivirus-review.html
| >
| >
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >
| > "A good end cannot sanctify evil means; nor must we ever do
| evil that good
| > may come of it"
| >
| > ...William Penn, 1683
| >
| > Grant Karpik
| > gkarpik@xxxxxxxxx
| >
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