That was me with the patch suggestion. Glad you have your backup computer working better anyway. Jo Ann Oh, thanks to whoever suggested downloading the Windows 98 patch - it took care of my old computer's problem of not shutting down unless i did it manually! Sue In Bridgeport, Mi. -- <Please delete this line and everything below.> To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/