I was just thinking about you last night and wondering where you've been. :O) I agree with your friend on most points, but both companies now have processors made specifically for laptops that don't suffer this issue. In directly comparing the two company's better CPU offerings, I would choose Intel over AMD for most things. However, it has nothing to do with their ability to idle. Additionally, that wasn't always the case. I built my current main system around an AMD-based chipset. It's just that today's offerings favor the Intel CPU. Given another year, that could swing back the other way. The biggest point you need to clarify is how the laptop will be used. Specifically, what are the most computationally intensive activities will it endure? If Photoshop is the heaviest activity you do and you choose to limit your Photoshop-type work to your desktop system, you can look for a laptop with improvements in other area such as RAM capacity and CPU speed instead of spending the money of the better graphics engine. Peace, Gman "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask" ----- Original Message ----- From: "cajun12" <cajun12@xxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Laptop recommendations > I'm looking at laptops and would like recommendations on Intel Dual Core 2 > chips versus AMD Turion 64X chips, and the new Intel integrated graphics > Express X-3100 versus ATI Radeon 1250 or 1270, which comes on all AMD > machines since AMD owns ATI. I've heard in the past that Intel integrated > graphics suck for gamers, but I'm hearing better news about the newest > X-3100. But, someone I know personally who has an AMD told me he would > pay more for the Intel for the following reasons (quoting him): > > <1. When the Intel CPU gets hot it slows down (and sometimes stops > depending on how hot the chip gets.) The circuitry is built into the > chip. When the AMD get hot it slows down, but the circuitry is built into > the mainboard. > > 2. The Intel CPU will go into the idle mode when it is not being used. > If you leave the computer on all night not being used, in the morning the > computer will feel cool. The AMD doesn't know what idle is. It runs full > speed all the time. If you leave the computer on all night not being > used, the computer will be just as hot in the morning as it was when you > were using it.> > > I've never owned AMD and have no personal experience with it. Does anyone > agree with the above? Yes, I would prefer a super high end laptop with an > nVidia graphics card, but a laptop is not my main computer, nor do I > foresee that it ever will be, so I'm looking to pay under $1000, but above > the bare bottom low end. I won't be using it every day. I need it to > carry my genealogy files, I'm not a gamer, but I am into graphically > intense activities using Photo Shop Elements and Paint Shop Pro. I've > gone into the store and looked, and quite a few of them had very warm > keypads after being on all day, but I couldn't necessarily narrow this > down to the type of chip that was in it. > > Thanks! : ) > > dj --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------