I downloaded Serif Draw Version 5 -- after I did the Serif company called me and offered me a deal I couldn't refuse :-) Four of their program CDs with all manuals for $100. I loved learning digital art using this program and all their software manuals are great. Understandable and easy to read. Since then I've gone on to other programs because I am an Artist and wanted more painting options but I would recommend this program to anybody starting out!! If you downloaded their free software -- don't be surprised when you get a phone call -- I loved it and their price! Judith Thanks a lot for that info.... I'm downloading now.......looks like a great site . Lyn Serif's DrawPlus has a broad array of tools, filters and graphics. Powerful, esay to use and not too expensive. www.serif.com for the most current software or try out an older version free at www.freeserifsoftware.com Hope this helps MJH To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk