-=PCTechTalk=- Fw: Re: Computer Problems following upgrade
- From: "Sandi Beach" <sandib2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "pctechtalk" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:14:41 -0500
This is rather long since we both are pretty verbose but should jog your
memory.
Sandi
----- Original Message -----
From: "GuitarMan" <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:45 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Computer Problems following upgrade
> Sandi,
> My first thoughts are that your system is overheating more now than it
> was before the new PS. When certain components get too hot, they start
> emitting odd problems and you're getting odd problems all over the place.
> So, have any of these issues cropped up between the time you turn on your
> cooled down system and about 15 minutes later? Chances are they happen
> after it's been running a while, instead. Again, this would strongly
> indicate a possible heat issue. I'll also mention that upgraded devices
> usually emit more heat than the less capable parts they replace. This
> means
> you now have a better (hotter) video card and a stronger (hotter) power
> supply as well as a faster (hotter) CPU running the whole show. To be
> fair,
> parts also run hotter than normal when they're stressed (their
> capabilities
> are maxed out) and that includes the power supply if it's being asked to
> power more parts than it was designed to can handle. I'm including that
> last statement so that you don't get the wrong impression that I'm
> questioning the upgrades he suggested.
>
> The first suspect would have to be the transfer of heat between the
> newly installed CPU and its heatsink/fan combo. If there is not enough or
> too much thermal grease between them, the CPU will not be able to shed
> enough of the heat it produces and you'll get all sorts of issues occuring
> (well, until the chip burns out completely). I would also look at the
> efficiency of the air movement within the case. If you have two fans
> sucking hot air out of the back of the case, but there are no intake fans
> to
> replace that hot air, you'll end up with a vacuum that causes less heat
> being able to escape as well as more 'dead spots' where no air is able to
> move at all. The opposite idea causes similar problems. If there's more
> air being forced into the case than there are fans to exhaust it, you end
> up
> with a high pressure cooker that again causes much less air movement than
> what is optimal. The ideal is a balanced intake/exhaust fan setup that
> allows for more of a 'wind tunnel' effect that continually replenishes the
> exhausted hot air with cooler fresh air moving from the front to the back
> of
> the case.
>
> If both of those check out fine (doubtful to me), then this is more
> than
> likely the result of a driver incompatability issue. Since the video card
> utilizes the most complicated of all drivers in a system, I would start by
> uninstalling it (uninstall its drivers and then physically remove the
> card)
> and see how the system acts with your old graphics in place. If all
> issues
> disappear, the card or something within its drivers is causing the
> problems.
>
> As for the lack of any perceptable perfomance boost, some components
> need a little tweaking before they get to really "strut their stuff". To
> help determine if that's the situation here, please send in the mainboard
> make/model or, if unknown, the entire system's make/model for reference.
>
> Peace,
> Gman
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones that are never asked"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sandi Beach" <sandib2@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "pctechtalk" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:38 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Computer Problems following upgrade
>
>
>> This is what is happening. Dave came about 2 months ago and added 1 gig
>> of
>> Ram and installed a new CD/DVD burner. He brought a new processor but it
>> did not work so he said he would be back. With the new burner I was able
>> to
>> finally install that confounded card program that I had ordered and
>> received
>> before Christmas. So all was well. Dave suggested that a new video card
>> would probably be a good idea so I told him to bring that along, too,
>> when
>> he came back with the new processor. So He did that. When he opened the
>> case that day he said it felt pretty warm in there and in checking, I
>> needed
>> a new power supply. He left the case open and came back with the power
>> supply the next morning. So he actually made 3 trips to my house but
>> only
>> charged me for two.
>> I now have (from BeLarc Advisor) 2.67 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4. System
>> Model is Intel Corporation. Running Windows XP Pro with Service Pack 2.
>> I
>> have Lite-on DVDRW LH-20A1P (CD-ROM Drive). I have 80 GB internal hard
>> drive and a Maxtor 160 GB external hard drive. Memory is 1024 MB in slot
>> 1
>> and 256 MB in slot 2. New Monitor is an Acer 20 inch flat screen. Video
>> Card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 (display adapter).
>> Since the new processor, new power supply, and new video card was
>> installed
>> I have experienced several "lockups". The first thing I noticed though
>> was
>> that my machine was asking me to reactivate windows. I did that and put
>> in
>> all the information they also required. I am pretty sure Dave had to
>> revalidate XP when he was here but this was different. Then when I
>> started
>> to play scrabble the pointer just stopped and would not budge. I tried
>> CAD
>> and ESC but to no avail. I hit the reset button and was back in
>> business.
>> A day or so later I came back to my computer and had a black screen. It
>> was
>> locked up again so reset brought it back. I defragged and I ran check
>> disk
>> letting it repair anything it found. I have run virus check and none
>> there.
>> I have run spyware checks and only get rid of a few cookies each time.
>> Over
>> this past week end I managed to play clear through a couple of games of
>> scrabble. Today when I tried it locked up immediately. I went to play
>> Spider solitaire and it locked up immediately and then asked me to
>> reactivate windows after the reset. This is at least the 4th time it has
>> ask me to reactivate windows.
>> I have kept Dave apprised of what is happening but I have not heard back
>> from him. I think he probably has no clue as to what needs fixing (but
>> maybe he is just very busy--I need to be kind and give him the benefit of
>> the doubt).
>> Now--please help me figure this out. I can live without games but I
>> really
>> don't want to and should not have to. This was supposed to make things
>> better, not worse. I don't detect any better performance either except
>> that
>> I now have a CD/DVD burner that works.
>> Sandi
>
>
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