Hi John, Sunday, January 18, 2004, 12:58:12 PM, you wrote: JD> If anyone wishes to become familiar with this new legislation, JD> here is the link to it. JD> http://www.spamlaws.com/federal/108s877.html JD> This is something many of us will need to be aware of from now on JD> (so as to keep on the right side of it). How it gets applied to people and organizations that live outside the US is unknown. You have several possibilities: US ISP vs US spammer US ISP vs foreign spammer Foreign ISP vs US ISP Depending on how things go, it may get further broken down: Foreign users of US ISP being spammed by foreign spammer Foreign users of US ISP being spammed by US spammer US users of foreign ISP being spammed by foreign spammer US users of foreign ISP being spammed by US spammer If things degenerate to this point, you also have the issues of US citizen being spammed by foreign spammer while travelling abroad, and so forth. There is much complexity here that is probably best resolved by an international law. Then, of course, you STILL have the same problems, but in this case, "foreign" would refer to countries that ignore the international law in question (like the US apparently does frequently). Hey, who said that?? Compounding the problem, if you want to get into it that deeply, is the fact that you often can't easily tell where the recipient is, even when you try to trace IP addresses, etc. Some country could probably even claim (with a bit of legitimacy) that US law can only be applied to *.US addresses, that *.ORG, *.COM, *.NET, etc. must be covered by an international law. --Scott. Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.