[patriots] Re: 'NOMS': Offenders? 'emailaprisoner'? Nothing is as it seems....

  • From: john TIMBRELL <johntimbrell@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Kate <talk2ktc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 06:39:10 +0000

Writing as one who has been on the inside the below explains what I
experienced. I thought that the administrative staff were just plain
incompetent or added to a prisoner's punishment by taking a long time
responding to normal humanitarian needs. I could not phone out because I could
not get the necessary card. Letters I sent first class took 10 days to arrive.
I receive a bundle of emails sent to me on my first day on day 9.
Make a complaint about the police or the NHS and they close ranks. Consider how
much worse it is in prison where any complaint remains inside a closed
community.
The three companies named below are more powerful than the government and just
as corrupt. Witness making up names to collect fees for monitoring non existent
electronic leg tags. JohnT

Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 19:05:35 +0000
From: talk2ktc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 'NOMS': Offenders? 'emailaprisoner'? Nothing is as it seems....

Nothing is as it seems...
Prison Management Services contracts.....All prison contracts are held by just
three companies, G4S, Serco and Sodexo, and all electronic monitoring is
delivered through a single national contract, currently held by
Capita.Probation in England and Wales is delivered by 35 probation trusts, who
are accountable to NOMS.
https://www.tuc.org.uk/sites/default/files/Criminal%20Justice%20Report.pdfhttp://www.capita.co.uk/our-experience/case-studies/national-offender-management-service.aspx





From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: adam.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxx.ukSubject: 'NOMS': Offenders?
'emailaprisoner'?Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:54:11 +0100











To Mr Adam Brown, ‘National Offenders Management Service (NOMS) .Dear Mr
Brown,Mr Carl Pencil (see lower down) tells us, "If you wish to discuss the
'emailaprisoner' system I have been advised that my NOMS colleague Mr Adam
Brown is available to converse on this subject."- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - -- - - - Before dealing with that subject, we again raise an issue about
'NOMS' we have raised before, but which has always been contemptuously ignored.
We are told that the ‘National Offenders Management Service (NOMS)
(is) an agency of the Ministry of Justice protecting the public & reducing
re-offending by delivering probation
& prison services”. How can anyone have faith in the Ministry of JUSTICE, when
THE VERY NAME of one of
its agencies contains a most blatant untruth.
There are obviously many in prison who are indeed ‘offenders’ - but many are
not!





For a start, there are those who are held ‘On Remand’ &
later found ‘Not Guilty’. Then there are the all too many who are in
fact found ‘Guilty’, when they are completely innocent. Yes, they are
‘convicts’, but they are
certainly not ‘OFFENDERS’. Timothy
John Evans, George Kelly, Mahmood Marchant, Daniel Steele & Stefan
Kisko are some we know about
who were indeed 'convicted', when they were innocent ‘members of the public’
(which
NOMS claims to protect). They were in fact tragic victims of what purport
to be ‘The Forces of Law & Order’, but can all too often be the Forces of
Oppression
& Persecution in Orwellian Britain. They were CERTAINLY not 'Offenders'.
Many who are 'rightly' convicted, are 'guilty' only of breaking one or more of
the many bad laws brought in by the mass murderers & war criminals of Lawyer
Blair's Regime (the fact that the prison population has doubled since they came
to power speaks volumes!) We hope you are able to tell us that the name of
NOMS will be changed to something more honest. - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - -However, to return to the question of 'emailaprisoner', You
will see in the thread below that we asked Mr Rick Stuart, Governor of HMP
Hull, the question, "... why HMP Hull (which does operate the 'emailaprisoner'
system), does NOT allow that part of that system whereby the original sender
can pay 20p to enable the prisoner to send a reply by email, with no drain on
the very limited amount allowed to the prisoner for stamps etc."A response
(also seen below) eventually came from Mr Carl Pencil, but it is not really an
'answer', just a confirmation of what we already know: i.e. That what purport
to be Her Majesty's Prisons are run by Governors as Private Fiefdoms, where
they do exactly as they wish. They only need to use the magic word 'SECURITY'
(no matter how farcically) & any awkward questions or complaints disappear as
though vapourised.We hope you will be able to tell us that the 'emailaprisoner'
system, AND the 20p reply by email, are (or soon will be) available in ALL
prisons, or give us a CONCRETE reason why not. Thanking you in anticipation.
The Article 6 Group. PS: Fenner Brockway (later Lord Brockway) was a
conscientious
objector in WW1, & an MP before & after WW2. He said,
"I spent three years in prison, & three years in Parliament, & saw that
character deteriorated faster in Parliament than it did in
prison"! NS. - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - -- - Mr, Carl Pencil
(Assistant Disclosure Specialist | DACU-Communication and Information
Directorate | Ministry of Justice | 10th Floor, post point 10.34| Frontline
Disclosure Team| 102 Petty France|London |SW1H 9AJ) tells us "the
'emailaprisoner' system is not owned by NOMS or HMPS and is in fact a private
enterprise, it is the responsibility of each individual HMP establishment to
decide if they wish to offer this service to prisoners. This is not a mandatory
commissioned service and would be an addition to the traditional mail and phone
systems currently available. I can confirm that MoJ has no immediate plans to
offer this service, but will discuss the 'emailaprisoner' system with a
prisoner representative committee. If you wish to discuss the 'emailaprisoner'
system I have been advised that my NOMS colleague Mr Adam Brown is available to
converse on this subject.
As the “emailaprisoner” system is not owned by NOMS or HMPS and is in fact a
private enterprise, it is the responsibility of each individual HMP
establishment to decide if they wish to offer this service to prisoners. This
is not a mandatory commissioned service and would be an addition to the
traditional mail and phone systems currently available. I can confirm that MoJ
has no immediate plans to offer this service, but will discuss the
“emailaprisoner” system with a prisoner representative committee. If you wish
to discuss the "emailaprisoner' system I have been advised that my NOMS
colleague Mr Adam Brown is available to converse on this subject. His e-mail
address is adam.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
If you have any new FoI requests please send them to the following e-mail
address data.access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. From: data.access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxx.ukDate: Wed, 6 May 2015 10:59:36 +0100Subject: MoJ
reply to FoI request 97115 Mr Scarth- Query about the reason HMP Hull does not
operate the 'emailaprisoner' system








Dear Mr Scarth,

As requested please find attached below the query which you made to HMP Hull
and MoJ reply.

I hope that helps.
Kind regards,
Carl Pencil-Assistant Disclosure Specialist | DACU-Communication and
Information Directorate | Ministry of Justice |
10th Floor, post point 10.34| Frontline Disclosure Team| 102 Petty
France|London |SW1H 9AJ



To The Information Commissioner.


On 16th January 2015 we sent a request under the FoI Act to The Governor of Her
Majesty's Prison Hull, Mr Rick Stuart. The question was about the
'emailaprisoner' system.
On 10th March 2015 we sent a reminder.
(The thread is below).
To date there has been neither acknowledgment nor reply.
We respectfully ask you to take such steps as are necessary to ensure we
receive a reply.
Sincerely,
Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.

From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

To: rick.stuart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

CC: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: F o I request. Reminder.

Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 12:10:18 +0000

To The Governor of HMP Hull, Mr Rick Stuart.


Sir,
Please forgive me for reminding you of our F o I Act request, below.
We would be grateful for a speedy reply.
Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.

From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

To: rick.stuart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

CC: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Freedom of Information Act: Query.

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:21:39 +0000

To The Governor of HMP Hull, Mr Rick Stuart.


Sir,
Request under the Freedom of information Act.
We ask that you inform us why HMP Hull (which does operate the 'emailaprisoner'
system), does NOT allow that part of that system whereby the original sender
can pay 20p to enable the prisoner to send a reply by email, with no drain on
the very limited amount allowed to the prisoner for stamps etc.
Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.



From: Norman Scarth [mailto:againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]


Sent: 04 May 2015 18:11

To: Data Access & Compliance Unit

Subject: MoJ97115. Carl Pencil. Pls send again.


To Carl Pencil-Assistant Disclosure Specialist | DACU-Communication and
Information Directorate | Ministry of Justice
| 10th Floor, post point 10.34| Frontline Disclosure Team| 102 Petty
France|London |SW1H 9AJ


www.gov.uk/moj | @MoJGovUK|
@MoJPress
Dear Mr Pencil,
Being very old, I cannot always remember what has gone before. Being an aid to
efficient communication, it is considered good email practice to include with
your
own message the one to which you are replying:
Will you please send your message again doing exactly that.
I will then be fully briefed to make contact with the person whose name you
give in your letter.
Norman Scarth.

_____________________________________________
From: Data Access & Compliance Unit
Sent: 20 April 2015 14:19
To: 'againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: MoJ reply to FoI request 97115 Mr Scarth- Query about the
reason HMP Hull does not operate the 'emailaprisoner' system
Importance: High

Dear Mr Scarth

Please find attached a response to your Freedom of Information request.

<< File: 97115 Mr Norman Scarth.doc >>

Kind regards,

Carl Pencil-Assistant Disclosure Specialist | DACU-Communication and
Information Directorate | Ministry of Justice |
10th Floor, post point 10.34| Frontline Disclosure Team| 102 Petty
France|London |SW1H 9AJ


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To The Information Commissioner.

On 16th January 2015 we sent a request under the FoI Act to The Governor of Her
Majesty's Prison Hull, Mr Rick Stuart. The question was about the
'emailaprisoner' system.
On 10th March 2015 we sent a reminder.
(The thread is below).
To date there has been neither acknowledgment nor reply.
We respectfully ask you to take such steps as are necessary to ensure we
receive a reply.
Sincerely,
Norman Scarth,

Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.




From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: rick.stuart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: F o I request. Reminder.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 12:10:18 +0000


To The Governor of HMP Hull, Mr Rick Stuart.





Sir,
Please forgive me for reminding you of our F o I Act request, below.
We would be grateful for a speedy reply.




Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.


From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: rick.stuart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Freedom of Information Act: Query.
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:21:39 +0000




To
The Governor of HMP Hull, Mr Rick Stuart.






Sir,

Request under the Freedom of information Act.
We ask that you inform us why HMP Hull
(which does operate the 'emailaprisoner' system), does NOT allow that part of
that system
whereby the original sender can pay 20p to enable the prisoner to send a reply
by email, with no drain on the very limited amount allowed to the prisoner for
stamps etc.
Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.


















--Forwarded Message Attachment--





To The Information Commissioner.

On 16th January 2015 we sent a request under the FoI Act to The Governor of Her
Majesty's Prison Hull, Mr Rick Stuart. The question was about the
'emailaprisoner' system.
On 10th March 2015 we sent a reminder.
(The thread is below).
To date there has been neither acknowledgment nor reply.
We respectfully ask you to take such steps as are necessary to ensure we
receive a reply.
Sincerely,
Norman Scarth,

Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.




From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: rick.stuart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: F o I request. Reminder.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 12:10:18 +0000


To The Governor of HMP Hull, Mr Rick Stuart.





Sir,
Please forgive me for reminding you of our F o I Act request, below.
We would be grateful for a speedy reply.




Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.


From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: rick.stuart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Freedom of Information Act: Query.
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:21:39 +0000




To
The Governor of HMP Hull, Mr Rick Stuart.






Sir,

Request under the Freedom of information Act.
We ask that you inform us why HMP Hull
(which does operate the 'emailaprisoner' system), does NOT allow that part of
that system
whereby the original sender can pay 20p to enable the prisoner to send a reply
by email, with no drain on the very limited amount allowed to the prisoner for
stamps etc.
Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.

















--Forwarded Message Attachment--







To The Information Commissioner.


On 16th January 2015 we sent a request under the FoI Act to The Governor of Her
Majesty's Prison Hull, Mr Rick Stuart. The question was about the
'emailaprisoner' system.
On 10th March 2015 we sent a reminder.
(The thread is below).
To date there has been neither acknowledgment nor reply.
We respectfully ask you to take such steps as are necessary to ensure we
receive a reply.
Sincerely,
Norman Scarth,

Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.




From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

To: rick.stuart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

CC: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: F o I request. Reminder.

Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 12:10:18 +0000




To The Governor of HMP Hull, Mr Rick Stuart.







Sir,
Please forgive me for reminding you of our F o I Act request, below.
We would be grateful for a speedy reply.




Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.


From: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

To: rick.stuart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

CC: againstcorruption@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Freedom of Information Act: Query.

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:21:39 +0000







To
The Governor of HMP Hull, Mr Rick Stuart.








Sir,

Request under the Freedom of information Act.
We ask that you inform us why HMP Hull
(which does operate the 'emailaprisoner' system), does NOT allow that part of
that system
whereby the original sender can pay 20p to enable the prisoner to send a reply
by email, with no drain on the very limited amount allowed to the prisoner for
stamps etc.
Norman Scarth,
Associate & Hon. Secretary of The Article 6 Group.
Athlone, Republic of Ireland.
















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