John Mcafee talked of manufacturing such systems, he already has a phone security app.
Google him. On 06/09/14 11:23, Rays1 wrote:
*From:*Rays1 [mailto:rayspost@xxxxxxxxxxxx] *Sent:* 06 September 2014 00:37 *To:* 'ECG' *Subject:* RE: Re: [patriots] The Dark Web Hello Red - and Fred,Some interesting posts just recently and I agree that communication is key to just about everything (just look at theeffect of any biased mass media - anywhere - for example)If we could establish a communication network/system which is *_not_* subject to minority control, then all this elitist,common purpose, 'leadership' outside authority, fascist nonsense could not proceed but, it is a difficult thing to tackle on anational scale....security, espionage "intelligence"? - the list goes on. If all were saintly, compassionate and without greedthen it would not be a problem but that's just not the case, unfortunately.I looked into this independent network subject a little while ago but I just don't have the expertise in this area. All I couldfathom was that I could fairly easily transmit my own network thru router, and possibly a range extender, to say, myneighbours down the road, maybe with directed aerials but, no more than hundreds or thousands of yards away at best and givenflat terrain without hills or many buildings in the way. I don't know anything about using cb radio using digital signals overthe airwaves but it sounds promising!. I'm willing to try a practical experiment with it if you can suggest one?The TOR network seems a good one but practically speaking, none of it should be regarded as 100% secure just as you say,however; the Tor one is probably as about as secure as we can currently get. It does'nt seem to me that one 'node' or 'relay'being compromised necessarily renders the whole thing insecure as you mentioned since the beauty of it is that it is encrypted3X at each 'node' so, the anonymous chain would not be broken - and that's what makes it such a frustration for spooks.Yes, they may well have super-computer resources to crack anything but if ALL of us used it, it would become so hopelesslyentangled that it'd be useless to spy upon it as they do now. It would be a bit like getting on an anonymous bus; the onecompromised 'node' you mentioned would indeed reveal one location you had been at but that's all... What's for sure is thatthe more that did use it, the more time-consuming and costly it'd be to spy on it -and the more frustrated 'they' would become.I watched the programme Jack gave a link to about this and it's well worth a watchMy personal view is that all this 'surveillance' nonsense, and building such vast computer data centres to store even the mostmundane and trivial of ALL emails, texts etc (at massive $milions energy costs alone) is already approaching the psychotic.The (in)famous American phrase of "*/_Total Information Awareness_/*", factually equates to a desire to be all-knowing andomnipotent; it's a desire to become GOD above man and means eventual total paranoia and lunacy for them as well as us.Fred, you are pretty much 'on the ball ' in practical terms...I'd like to see practical answers tooRay *From:*ECG [mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *Sent:* 05 September 2014 15:02 *To:* ECG *Subject:* Fwd: Re: [patriots] The Dark WebGuys where I work we just got a half page ad in the evening standard for £4kThe eve standard gets put on all the train and tube seats and london is a sixth of the population.Let's start penning an ad. Red. Sent from my iPadOn 4 Sep 2014, at 23:50, ECG <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:[I'm with BT - you have to actively sign up to openzone and it is made clear that your router will be open. MG] There is another way. That is to use private wireless transmission with each member being a node. Remember the cb radio days, well digital radio today uses digital signals over analogue waves. It should not be to much to convert an existing wifi router to emit over a greater area and use a selection of frequencies that could be changed weekly. Bt already use other peoples routers to propagate their Btopenzone network and I have proved this, although someone recently pointed out to me that apparently bt customers sign and agree to this in their terms and conditions, probably without realising. Red. Sent from my iPad On 4 Sep 2014, at 20:08, ECG <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: True, most of these clever programs are either put up by the spies or they by whatever means gain a back-door into them. The best way to send secret messages over email is to use a complicated encryption that you set up offline. There are many available you do on paper, use several in a sequence and it would take ages for them to crack it. Choose right and they can't because they won't be able to identify common word lengths. In the end it's not worth it. Send someone a letter if you must and use a security sticker on the seams. Other than that... give up on being secure. Colin On 04/09/14 18:05, ECG wrote: Just a thought chaps, a friend from my BNP days whose son works in government internet surveillance told me back in about 2008 that his son had told /him,/
