Not everything I suggested was in a change-this-to-that format (some of it
was). I’d be happy if for each article/paragraph there was consideration of all
our suggestions and a verbally agreed upon rewording. I believe a vote to
change is appropriate at that time.
On Jan 26, 2016, at 3:50 PM, insanas (Redacted sender "insanas" for DMARC)
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Page 9 of the Jan PAS newsletter states that the items listed are proposed
changes to the bylaws that were considered by the Board of Directors. Alex,
If you do not want your suggestions to be voted on we will vote on those
suggested by Kevin and myself. We can then talk about your suggestions and if
anyone wants to move to amend the bylaws to put in your language we can do
so. However, we will not spend a lot of time debating your suggestions since
the PAS board of Directors had several months to consider them and no one has
opposed any of your suggestions.
Any of the bylaw changes suggested by you, me, or Kevin can be discussed, but
if it looks like we need a lot more input, we can always postpone that item
to another MOM.
Sam Insana PAS President
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Alex Vrenios <axv@xxxxxxx>
Date: 01/26/2016 2:54 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pasmembers] Re: Meeting of the Minds ROOM CHANGE for Jan 27 Meeting
The issues that I raised in my email regarding changes to our Bylaws were not
intended to be actual recommendations but talking points, suggestions for
further discussion toward actual changes that can be voted upon.
Until we have proposed wording that constitutes an actual rewrite of a part
of the Bylaws, no member can decide how to vote on any topic. If by “proxy”
we mean the absent member is giving his or her trust to the proxy holder’s
vote, then fine. But holding a proxy that says the absent member votes one
way or another doesn’t seem to have much meaning at this stage in the change
process.
Alex
On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:25 PM, insanas (Redacted sender "insanas" for DMARC)
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
There is a question as to whether proxies are allowed for voting on bylaw
amendments. Article 5 section e is confusing. It says proxies are ok when
voting but then it says bylaw changes must be passed by two thirds of the
members present. Since bylaw changes sometimes involve a word or two added
or subtracted, and some of the proposals are tweaked at the voting meeting
by suggestions from the members present, it might be better to just not use
proxies for bylaw changes. If anyone strongly disagrees and wants to vote by
proxy, then please reply to this email and let us know your reasoning. I
have no strong feelings either way at this point. Sam Insana President of PAS
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Terri <starstuff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:starstuff@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 01/26/2016 1:23 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: PAS Members ListServ <pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [pasmembers] Meeting of the Minds ROOM CHANGE for Jan 27 Meeting
Please make a note, we are in Room LS-204 tomorrow
night, Wednesday Jan 27, for the Private, PAS Members
only + Voting meeting.
Bring a snack to share.
Bottled water is being provided by the PAS Snack Fund.
See you there!
Terri, Event Manager
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