[overture] Re: False Shown Physical Boundaries

  • From: matthew fuller <matt.l.fuller@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: overture@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:45:50 -0400

Bill,

Sorry for the confusion.  I'm going to let my professor make the change.

Thank you for the clarification.
Matt

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Bill Henshaw <henshaw@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear Matt,
>  If you change the file Overture/Ogshow/grid.C and then type 'make'
> from the Overture directory that file should get recompiled and the
> libraries rebuilt. It sounds like you didn't install Overture ?
>
> ...Bill
>
> matthew fuller wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Thanks for the prompt reply!  I think i can understand where you are
>> coming from on the representation of convex corners.  There really is no way
>> to fully represent these areas with mappings.
>>
>> I had another question about modifying the grid.C file.  I'm in unknown
>> waters here with remaking Overture.  I attempted to enter make in the
>> overture directory and I get a "no targets specified no makefile found".  I
>> do notice a Makefile.in and a Makefile.save.  Should i run one of those
>> instead?  Within them they state that environmental variables should be
>> defined prior to running though.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Matt
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Bill Henshaw <henshaw@xxxxxxxx <mailto:
>> henshaw@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>    Dear Matt,
>>
>>     At some point the plotting of mixed boundaries was broken. Here is
>>    the fix:
>>
>>    Change Overture/ogshow/grid.C around line 463 from
>>
>>    --- old:
>>
>>           if( parameters.gridOptions(grid) &
>>    GraphicsParameters::plotInteriorBoundary )
>>             ISinteriorBoundaryPoint=0;
>>           else
>>             ISinteriorBoundaryPoint=MappedGrid::ISinteriorBoundaryPoint;
>>
>>    ---- new:
>>
>>           if( parameters.gridOptions(grid) &
>>    GraphicsParameters::plotInteriorBoundary )
>>             ISinteriorBoundaryPoint=MappedGrid::ISinteriorBoundaryPoint;
>>           else
>>             ISinteriorBoundaryPoint=0;
>>    -------
>>
>>    After making the change just type 'make' from the main Overture
>>    directory.
>>
>>    As a note, to send *.cmd files just rename them to *_cmd for example.
>>
>>
>>     Convex corners are a contentious issue in my mind. I am
>>    going to rant a bit here but don't take it personally :)
>>    The bottom line is that you are fooling yourself if you
>>    think you are getting an accurate answer near the sharp convex
>>    corner.
>>
>>    I always recommend that the corners be rounded off slightly.
>>    As the mesh is refined the corner can be made sharper if
>>    desired. In this case more and more grid points are added
>>    to resolve the corner where the solution changes rapidly.
>>    You thus will get an accurate answer to a slightly wrong geometry
>>    rather than the wrong answer to the right geometry.
>>
>>
>>    Regards,
>>     Bill
>>
>>    matthew fuller wrote:
>>
>>
>>           Hi,
>>           I have a few questions about some false physical boundaries
>> which
>>           are plotted when using cgins.
>>           To begin, i am mapping a flatback airfoil. Essentially it is an
>>           airfoil with the trailing edge chopped off. This in itself
>> proved
>>           difficult to grid given my limited knowledge of ogen mappings
>> and
>>           ogens seemingly limited ability to map around sharp corners.
>> None
>>           the less i was able to get a very sharp flat trailing edge using
>>           shared sides, mixed boundaries, and no hole cutting. Ogen
>>        indicates
>>           my mappings overlap properly. But, when i read in this grid
>>        file to
>>           cgins the mixed boundary that i specified is still plotted as a
>>           physical boundary. To be clear i can tell by the flow field that
>>           these "false" physical boundaries are not actually recognized by
>>           cgins. They do however look strange and raise questions to their
>>           origin and significance. I have found that by disabling boundary
>>           plotting completely whilst in cgins gets rid them but it also
>>        gets
>>           rid of the airfoil boundary. This make its harder to see
>>        where the
>>           airfoil stops and the flow field begins.
>>
>>           My question is, is there a way to change the representation
>>        of these
>>           mixed boundary boundaries in ogen to prevent them from showing
>> up
>>           when running a simulation?    I have attached a screen shot
>>        to show what i mean.  Unfortunately
>>           the email client i am using (Gmail) will not let me send .cmd
>>        files
>>           (for fear of malware i suppose) so i can not send my ogen and
>>        cgins
>>           command files.
>>
>>           I would appreciate any insight you can provide on this issue.
>>
>>           Thanks!
>>           Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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