Well I hope this message dictate this time. I was having trouble with it. But
yes I do want physical therapy. I want to see if that will work. If that
doesn't work I will consider other options. But I really don't want to go the
surgery route yet. Because that would put me down for the count for a while.
Anyway my appointment is set for Wednesday. I'm going to go. I'm going to tell
the therapist I still have stuff to sort out in the closet yet. Anyway I hope I
get a nice person. I've never been to this place before so I'm a little bit
nervous The place is called Metro sports physical therapy. It's not that far
from my apartment building. I can take one bus and then I have to walk a block.
But anyway Medicare will pay part of it but I have to pay the rest. But that's
OK I guess. The other place it takes both Medicare and Medicaid I do not want
to go to. Because I had trouble with the place. Trouble with one person. This
person who is a physical therapist had this idea the blind people and sighted
people should not socialize with each other. And she and I really had an
argument. Because of that when I was a gentleman next to me that wanted to talk
to me while we were exercising. She took issue with it. Anyway she said
something and he started yelling at her. I thought it was going to escalate
into a huge fight but it didn't thank goodness. But I do want some pain relief
and what they gave me didn't work. And I don't want to go on Vicodin or
OxyCotton either. That would not be a good thing. I don't want to become an
addict. But I did go to choir rehearsal on Sunday even though it hurt. I didn't
joy seeing the Christmas party the Messiah that we were rehearsing. Then I came
home but I had the rust. Anyway that's just the way that goes. If I could get
somebody in here to help me sort out the rest of the stuff that would be good.
But I'm not sure if that will happen. But anyway we'll just have to see. But
anyway I've got my bedroom closet to do the linen closet the closet near the
end of the closet near the front door.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Sharon Conkling <sharonconk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Kathleen,
I am sorry you are going through so much. You said you had no choice when it
comes to physical therapy. Yes you do. If you don’t want to do it you say no.
We all have choices.
I have chronic illnesses and find that a good, positive attitude helps when
dealing with any kind of treatment.
Please know you are in my prayers.
Sharon and Pearl
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 1:12 PM
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Subject: [ourplace] Re: Shoulder and Balance Problems
well Dr. Warden want to me to start therapy so what can I say. I didn't have
much of a choice in that decision. Anyway I start on Wednesday. So let's see
what happens. I just hope it goes OK. I was a little bit nervous when I
called this place because I wasn't sure if they work with a blind person but
I just came right out master. And she asked one of the therapist and they
said they didn't have a problem with it I hope I can believe that. I really
do because man I hope I don't run into that issue if I did I probably would
leave the place. But she wants me to come early before my appointment so they
can do paperwork. The place doesn't take Medicaid so I'm going to have to pay
for part of it. Oh well what can you do. That's just how it is. But I still
have closets to clean out and maybe I can get somebody out to help me I don't
know. Trying to get help with the stuff is really ridiculous. Anyway that's
just the way that goes.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <rosemariec9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi, Linda,
If I was Kathleen, I'd clean the closet out first before getting physical
therapy. Then I wouldn't have to worry about it anymore.
Rosie
On 12/7/2015 9:20 AM, linda gehres wrote:
Oh, you poor dear! Maybe it’s a good thing I only have two closets in my
1910 built house. I usually, like most neighbors around here, complain about
the lack of closet space and plug-in sockets in these poor little old houses,
but given that the closets are small and there are only two of them, guess
I’m lucky. The one in the computer room is mainly filled up with a
five-piece luggage set, a cat carrier which Brandy will never go into again I
don’t think, and paper products. Not too many clothes. They’re all in the
smaller bedroom closet. I wonder given that you have to go through more
closet cleaning if it wouldn’t be better to get that done first and then do
the therapy, because the closet cleaning is going to totally undo the
benefits of therapy.
I’m proud of myself. Today I went out to mail Curt’s DVD and went to
Nation’s, a restaurant which is a favorite haunt of mine. The post office
and the mail box is diagonally across the street and about half a block down.
I walked a full mile and a half, perhaps a little more.
Linda G.
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 4:51 AM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: Shoulder and Balance Problems
Well I won't get away from the construction until March. Well be so happy.
But it was so weird when I was at the church I wanted to put that stuff in my
iPhone is a note and I couldn't even do it. You couldn't make phone calls you
couldn't unlock your phone you couldn't do anything. Boy I hope there's the
emergency in my church if were in the basement because nobody will be able to
make calls. That's just crazy. I don't know why they built the building that
way but something needs to be done about it. Yep and I can also hear the
construction again. Oh boy yeah that's the way it goes. But yeah I'll have to
start physical therapy. I wish they'd let me wait until after Christmas. But
I don't think they will. It sure would be nice. And I still have more closets
the cleanout too. So that's not going to help matters.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2015, at 5:03 AM, linda gehres <ljgehres@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I sure don’t envy your situation, Kathleen! Just seems as though you need
more than rehabilitative therapy for that shoulder problem! You’re also
having to overdo it, especially when you have to wash several loads of
clothing, especially blankets. Then, putting the bed back together hurts
like a sun of a gun!! I know, I experience much the same thing. And then
there’s that nagging construction that you can’t get away from!!
Linda G.
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:37 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: Shoulder and Balance Problems
Well I got one therapy place read. That was all the person had time for. But
anyway that's the way that went. I didn't have that much time in between the
service and choir. Plus I was trying to drink coffee and get that done. But
anyway I got one place so I can make an appointment at. If that place doesn't
work I'll have to get somebody else to read the rest of it. Because it was
more than one. I think the lady said there was 10 different places. And they
tried to email me as I said before and my iPhone wouldn't open any apps like
Notes or anything. Because I couldn't get a signal when I was down in the
basement. No I know that doesn't work. Where he where the next time this
happens I'm going to talk to a friend of mine during the week up at church
and see if she can type all the stuff for me in braille because they have a
braille printer. Maybe somebody will complain but I'll give them some money
toward the paper. They braille stuff for me for choir so that's OK. But I'll
see what happens. This one lady might do it but then again who knows. All I
got some sleep but not much. Because of that hi Hayden here. Man it was hot.
I actually had to turn on my air-conditioner and that's pretty bad. But then
again I turned it off. I tossed and turned it was up-and-down and up-and-down
and up-and-down. Now I'm not going to get much sleep because tomorrow I'll be
woken up by the dam construction. Oh boy 7 o'clock in the morning here it
comes.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2015, at 10:15 PM, linda gehres <ljgehres@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Kathleen, hope you were able to get to church, and hope you got that one
sheet of paper read to you. Hope things have been going more successfully
for you, and during the weekends that you’ve gotten the rest you’ve needed
which you can’t get during the week because of the construction.
Linda G.
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 4:37 AM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: Shoulder and Balance Problems
I think these courses will be really cool. Well I'm awake. I'm going to try
to go to church today. I don't know how successful that'll be. Right now my
shoulder is really stiff but everybody says I should use it even though it
hurts. But man that's really hard to do. But I will try to go. We'll just
have to see what happens. Hopefully it will be successful. If I can get that
stuff read today I'll be very happy. It's only one sheet of paper. So that's
not bad. It's not like getting all my mail read.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2015, at 11:34 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <rosemariec9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Wow, that's interesting. I'm glad you'll be learning about different types of
equipment and what they do.
On 12/5/2015 8:14 PM, Panix wrote:
All these courses or through the government. Summer for the federal
government and summer through the state. So it's going to take a while.
There's bunches of them you can take is a ham radio operator. And they show
you some other stuff that you probably wouldn't get through Hadley.
Especially through the state one. You learn your bulldozers are in other
types of equipment and what you do with them. I need some of it is kind of
site related but some of it isn't.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <rosemariec9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi, Kathleen,
That's neat you want to take some courses in emergency preparedness. I'm
taking one through Hadley and it's really interesting. It's important to know
what to do in case of an emergency.
Rosie
On 12/5/2015 8:01 PM, Panix wrote:
Well I'm still here. I didn't go no mail. Anyway I'm just not posting as
much. I have this herbal remedies that I got from a company out of Nevada
called nighttime. I'm going to use that tonight. It's something I'm going to
order some more. I can get 360 in a bottle and it last me quite a long time.
And yes it works. It has velarium root and some other stuff and it does help
me go to sleep. I need to go to church on Sunday cause I need to get that
thing read. Then on Monday I can set things up. And as far as being alone on
Christmas that really won't bother me that much. If I send Christmas Eve I'll
probably just go home and crash. If I buy myself Christmas Day I've got a lot
of stuff I can do. I've got tons of books I need to read. But as far as
sorting out more stuff that I want to throw away I'm going to have to find
somebody to help me and that's not happening. But that's the way that goes
but I just continue to plot along. I know I have to do that and that's it.
But I will make it. I'm going to take some courses next year in terms of them
are emergency preparedness stuff for ham radio. I can read those in braille
if I get the books and I can just lay down and listen to it or put it on the
iPhone and let it read. We'll just have to see what happens. There's three or
four courses I want to take to the federal government. I think one is through
the state. But anyway that's how it is. So even if I'm laying flat on my left
side with the iPhone in my left hand I can still do it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <rosemariec9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi, Linda,
Yes, we'd all miss Kathleen. I'm just thinking of her health. I really do
hope she can get some relief for that shoulder. It's so awful to be in a lot
of pain.
Rosie
On 12/4/2015 7:56 PM, linda gehres wrote:
Rosie, I’m sure we’d all miss Kathleen if she would have to go no-mail, but
dear Kathleen, you’re going through so much right now it’s a wonder you can
function at all! Here’s hoping at last you get some good sleep tonight and
over the weekend!!
Linda G.
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Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 3:44 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: Shoulder and Balance Problems
Hi, Kathleen,
If I were you, I'd go on nomail for awhile until I felt better and got things
straightened out. I think I had to do that for awhile in 2010 when I had
severe bronchitis. I had just come out of the hospital and had to stay with
my parents for a couple of weeks.
I was on oxygen for awhile and that was pretty scary.
Rosie
On 12/4/2015 1:09 PM, linda gehres wrote:
Take care of yourself first, Kathleen. You may have to stop sending e-mails
for awhile until things get more straightened out for you. You’re also in a
terrible building which probably hasn’t been kept up to code for years, and
certainly, the heat doesn’t help you sleep at all!!
Linda G.
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Behalf Of Panix
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:49 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: Shoulder and Balance Problems
No the place I go to you see a different doctor each time. I mainly see the
orthopedist. That's basically how it is right now. And the other reason I
can't sleep is there having trouble controlling the heat in this building. I
was talking to a lady down the hall from me and she told me her apartment was
so hot she had to turn her air conditioning on. I'm I have to do the same
thing. She said she felt like she was being fake. So that's another reason
why I can't sleep either. But anyway I'm going to deal with this guy first.
And see what happens. And I don't think the shot worked. I really don't.
Because the levels haven't gone down. But anyway as far as going to go yes I
have felt a couple. When I shoot one I don't think so. I guess if I had to I
would consider the idea but I really wouldn't want to. But somebody shoot
that knows how to do it and who has a pair of ice at work. That's just how I
feel about it. As far as changes subject line so I don't have a keyboard yet.
And I may at some point have to stop sending email for a while. I don't know
because I'm just so tired.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:39 PM, linda gehres <ljgehres@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, Kathleen, you and I will just leave those crummy guns alone and we’ll
each have to do the best we can with the pain we’re under. Do you have a
regular primary care doctor, and does that person (if you have one) realize
you are in such constant pain? I know all too well what it’s like to be in
pain with arm and shoulder spasms and not to be able to get enough sleep.
I’m a real bearcatto put it politely when that kind of thing happens and have
to take other actions to relieve my frustration and/or stress level. I’m
trying to make things as easy as I can for myself right now so my body can at
least feel better and also so I can sleep and feel like a real human being
when I awake. So far, I got up, dressed and out of the house by 6:20 a.m.,
met my girl friend Gina for breakfast as we’d planned at 7:00 a.m., went down
to the ATM at the CVS store and thought I was doing okay until I realized one
of the bills I got out of that machine was a $50-dollar bill. Oops, don’t
think they should be doing that, and I’m going to call my bank with that
concern, i.e., how does ablind person know they’re getting a $20 or a $50?
Granted, however, I didn’t wear headphones when I was using this brand new
ATM machine. Anyway, bussed back completely the other direction and got my
prescriptions at Walgreen’s and cabbed it back home. After that, on my wise
friend’s advice, I did Christmas shopping mostly online but with the help of
a service rep at the other end of a telephone line. I figured he or she
would know their stock and could help me select colors better than I could.
Linda g.
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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:48 AM
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Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Well the thing is I would be afraid that the person helping me she would let
me fall. That's the other thing I'd be concerned about two. If I did it, I
would actually need somebody to stand behind me to help me balance. That
would be the thing. And no way I don't think my right shoulder would like it.
What I'm getting really frustrated. I can't seem to get in a comfortable
position to sleep. And this is been since Monday. I'm just getting really
really frustrated with this whole turn of events.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2015, at 2:44 PM, linda gehres <ljgehres@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Oh, Kathleen, no way do we want you to do something that would make you even
more injured than you are already!! Good decision on your part.
Linda G.
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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:37 AM
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Well with the way my right shoulder is I'm not sure I would be able to shoot
a gun. And I'm not really sure I would have the balance. I probably could try
it but I'd end up in rehab for time number three. And I'm really don't think
that would be worth it. But yes I have felt the gun. When I visited my friend
in Michigan he let me feel one. And he asked me if I wanted to shoot it and I
said no I just don't want any part of it. Because I would be afraid I would
fall and lose my balance.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:05 AM, Karen Delzer <catwacky@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Woooo, you go, girl!!! Yah, I'm about 4 foot ten and Curt is about 5 foot 7.
I used to be absolutely terrified at even thinking of holding a gun, but I
would do it now. And I know that my son is very good and was one of the best
when he was in the Marines, so he could teach me. Curt has done it already.
Think it would be interesting, anyway. Yep, always use good sense about doing
something like that, and safety first.
Karen
on 08:36 PM 12/3/2015, Vickie said:
LOL! I hear that you are a little spit fire of a woman, Karen. Short I mean.
And that Curt is tall. But anyway, I carry a small 22 gun with a barrel no
bigger than my pointer finger. He makes a loud noise when shot, but you can
hold him steady and I have shot perfect targets with him. I call him Little,
because he is. So I don’t think you’d have to worry about being thrown back
on your duff if you went shooting. Your son should know how much of a recoil
(the kick or percussion of the bullet going off), you can handle due to his
experience. I was very scared at first, to even touch a gun. But I have
learned to be more confortable with it and when the safety is on, there’s no
worry. But I will admit, every time I shoot one of my new guns, I am a
little shy of what to expect. Shells get ejected when you shoot a semi
automatic, and they don’t feel good because they’re hot. And, we wear
earplugs when we go out shooting. Just those little rubber things that you
stick in your ear and sometimes fall out if you move too quickly. smile.
But they work. Your son should know how to have you hold a 12-gauge shotgun,
so that it won’t throw you. Well, I’ve said enough now. The one thing my
husband has pressed in my head is that if someone hands you a gun and says
it’s not loaded, never believe it, until you have checked for yourself that
it is loaded, while holding it in a safe position, pointed at no one. Again,
be safe.
Vickie
From: Karen Delzer
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:55 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Well, good for you, Vickie. My younger son who was in the Marines has always
intended to take me to learn a bit about shooting, but we haven't done it. It
would be interesting, if I didn't get knocked on my derriere. I agree with
you completely.
Karen
on 07:18 PM 12/3/2015, Vickie said:
Actually, Iâve completed several background checks at gun shows and at
stores that sell guns. They keep saying that at gun shows they donât do
background checks. At every one Iâve been to here in Arizona, they always
take background checks and call them in, before selling a fire arm. Also,
they do ask questions about if youâve ever been diagnosed with a mental
illness, and other such oriented questions, along with if youâve ever been
convicted of either a misdemeanor or felony. I own several kinds of guns,
and have passed all the background checks. The only problem I have, is being
able to go into an inside shooting range. They say I might shoot the ceiling
or the floor and I canât get training, so far for carry concealed. So I go
out int he desert and shoot with my husband who has been trained. But here in
Arizona you donât have to have a permit to carry either open or concealed.
Our sheriff stated three days ago and repeated his words last night in light
of the shooting, that he wants anyone who has a concealed carry permit to try
and stop a mass shooting, if at all possible. Law enforcement canât get
there soon enough to actually stop such a tragedy. So, maybe if more law
enforcement people stated something like that, perhaps terrorists would hear
it and be somewhat afraid anyway. They just keep pouncing on places which
are gun free. Of course, California is a gun free state, so youâre easy
pickings. Please stay safe.
Vickie
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 11:52 AM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
I agree. We do need better background checks. I think when Bill Clinton was
president, he wanted to make that a law if I remember correctly.
From: Connie Mohney
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 10:47 AM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
I agree. We do need to tightne our gun laws and do better back ground checks
to make sure people who want guns have no history of mental illness.
Connie
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On Behalf Of linda gehres
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:20 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
I heard the name Siad Ferek or however he spelledit, mentioned on the news.
My friend has heard the news this morning and says that the person they
thought was a third suspect wasnât involved. Weâve just gotta tighten up
gun laws in this country and force especially people with known mental
illness to better checks prior to them being able to get guns. An awful lot
of troubled people in our midst, but Curt, you are so right, there are so
many good people, too, and as hard as it is sometimes, I try to keep my
spirits on how good so many people in this world are.
Linda G.
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On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:59 PM
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Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Hi, Vicky,
Iâm so glad to hear that there were no developmentally disabled people
involved but any kind of shooting is tragic. I wouldnât be surprised if
these guys are tied to ISIS.
Rosie
From: Vickie
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:42 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Itâs my understanding that it was a Health Department Christmas party and
no developmentally disabled people were involved. This room was a community
room and the rest of the building has keycard security. Thatâs why it was
so easy for the shooters to enter and exit so quickly. They were also I
believe the news man here said, 500 feet from I-10 which also gave them easy
access. I also saw an email saying that ISIS was celebrating the shooting
today. So, maybe these people are tied to them. The guyâs name is Siad
Faruk. Didnât hear the ladyâs name, or the suspect they have in custody.
Vickie
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:25 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Hi, Linda,
I'm beginning to wonder too if earth has seen its last days. The way things
are going, it sure seems like it to me. My heart is very heavy today because
my sister Lillian is developmentally disabled and those poor people there
were too.
Rosie
-----Original Message-----
From: linda gehres
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 8:08 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] The Horror in San Bernardino
As I had an appointment to get a cortizone injection in my shoulder and
could
only estimate how long the appointment would take or how long it would take
Paratransit to get back to me, I didn't start hearing about the horrible
shootings until about 5 p.m., although I got a cell phone notification
around 11
a. m. that something horrific had happened there. Curt and Karen, I prayed
you
were far away from it all and am glad to know you're both fine.
Scott Pelly, with CBS Evening News and 60 Minutes, made a very good
observation
on his show tonight. Since June, when the nine people at the Charleston,
North
Carolina church were shot, they've had to start their reporting about seven
or
eight weeks in a row with some kind of gun-related tragedy in this country,
but
this is the first time that there was more than a lone shooter involved. I
know
the FBI isn't ruling out terrorism but they just don't want to speculate
right
now until they've been able to glean more information. Really makes me
wonder
how much longer we human beings have left on this planet given all the
random
shootings. I hear about it all the time in Oakland, but Alameda has a much
stricter and better manned police force, so you don't see the homelessness,
the
downtrodden, and the black-on-black fighting as you do in Oakland. Scares
the
woollies out of me, I'll tell ya!!
Linda G.
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