All these courses or through the government. Summer for the federal
government and summer through the state. So it's going to take a while. There's
bunches of them you can take is a ham radio operator. And they show you some
other stuff that you probably wouldn't get through Hadley. Especially through
the state one. You learn your bulldozers are in other types of equipment and
what you do with them. I need some of it is kind of site related but some of it
isn't.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <rosemariec9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi, Kathleen,
That's neat you want to take some courses in emergency preparedness. I'm
taking one through Hadley and it's really interesting. It's important to know
what to do in case of an emergency.
Rosie
On 12/5/2015 8:01 PM, Panix wrote:
Well I'm still here. I didn't go no mail. Anyway I'm just not posting as
much. I have this herbal remedies that I got from a company out of Nevada
called nighttime. I'm going to use that tonight. It's something I'm going to
order some more. I can get 360 in a bottle and it last me quite a long time.
And yes it works. It has velarium root and some other stuff and it does help
me go to sleep. I need to go to church on Sunday cause I need to get that
thing read. Then on Monday I can set things up. And as far as being alone on
Christmas that really won't bother me that much. If I send Christmas Eve
I'll probably just go home and crash. If I buy myself Christmas Day I've got
a lot of stuff I can do. I've got tons of books I need to read. But as far
as sorting out more stuff that I want to throw away I'm going to have to
find somebody to help me and that's not happening. But that's the way that
goes but I just continue to plot along. I know I have to do that and that's
it. But I will make it. I'm going to take some courses next year in terms of
them are emergency preparedness stuff for ham radio. I can read those in
braille if I get the books and I can just lay down and listen to it or put
it on the iPhone and let it read. We'll just have to see what happens.
There's three or four courses I want to take to the federal government. I
think one is through the state. But anyway that's how it is. So even if I'm
laying flat on my left side with the iPhone in my left hand I can still do
it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <rosemariec9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi, Linda,
Yes, we'd all miss Kathleen. I'm just thinking of her health. I really do
hope she can get some relief for that shoulder. It's so awful to be in a
lot of pain.
Rosie
On 12/4/2015 7:56 PM, linda gehres wrote:
Rosie, I’m sure we’d all miss Kathleen if she would have to go no-mail,
but dear Kathleen, you’re going through so much right now it’s a wonder
you can function at all! Here’s hoping at last you get some good sleep
tonight and over the weekend!!
Linda G.
From: ourplace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ourplace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 3:44 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: Shoulder and Balance Problems
Hi, Kathleen,
If I were you, I'd go on nomail for awhile until I felt better and got
things straightened out. I think I had to do that for awhile in 2010 when
I had severe bronchitis. I had just come out of the hospital and had to
stay with my parents for a couple of weeks.
I was on oxygen for awhile and that was pretty scary.
Rosie
On 12/4/2015 1:09 PM, linda gehres wrote:
Take care of yourself first, Kathleen. You may have to stop sending
e-mails for awhile until things get more straightened out for you. You’re
also in a terrible building which probably hasn’t been kept up to code for
years, and certainly, the heat doesn’t help you sleep at all!!
Linda G.
From: ourplace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ourplace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Panix
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:49 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: Shoulder and Balance Problems
No the place I go to you see a different doctor each time. I mainly see
the orthopedist. That's basically how it is right now. And the other
reason I can't sleep is there having trouble controlling the heat in this
building. I was talking to a lady down the hall from me and she told me
her apartment was so hot she had to turn her air conditioning on. I'm I
have to do the same thing. She said she felt like she was being fake. So
that's another reason why I can't sleep either. But anyway I'm going to
deal with this guy first. And see what happens. And I don't think the shot
worked. I really don't. Because the levels haven't gone down. But anyway
as far as going to go yes I have felt a couple. When I shoot one I don't
think so. I guess if I had to I would consider the idea but I really
wouldn't want to. But somebody shoot that knows how to do it and who has a
pair of ice at work. That's just how I feel about it. As far as changes
subject line so I don't have a keyboard yet. And I may at some point have
to stop sending email for a while. I don't know because I'm just so tired.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:39 PM, linda gehres <ljgehres@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, Kathleen, you and I will just leave those crummy guns alone and
we’ll each have to do the best we can with the pain we’re under. Do you
have a regular primary care doctor, and does that person (if you have one)
realize you are in such constant pain? I know all too well what it’s like
to be in pain with arm and shoulder spasms and not to be able to get
enough sleep. I’m a real bearcatto put it politely when that kind of
thing happens and have to take other actions to relieve my frustration
and/or stress level. I’m trying to make things as easy as I can for
myself right now so my body can at least feel better and also so I can
sleep and feel like a real human being when I awake. So far, I got up,
dressed and out of the house by 6:20 a.m., met my girl friend Gina for
breakfast as we’d planned at 7:00 a.m., went down to the ATM at the CVS
store and thought I was doing okay until I realized one of the bills I got
out of that machine was a $50-dollar bill. Oops, don’t think they should
be doing that, and I’m going to call my bank with that concern, i.e., how
does ablind person know they’re getting a $20 or a $50? Granted, however,
I didn’t wear headphones when I was using this brand new ATM machine.
Anyway, bussed back completely the other direction and got my
prescriptions at Walgreen’s and cabbed it back home. After that, on my
wise friend’s advice, I did Christmas shopping mostly online but with the
help of a service rep at the other end of a telephone line. I figured he
or she would know their stock and could help me select colors better than
I could.
Linda g.
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On Behalf Of Panix
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:48 AM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Well the thing is I would be afraid that the person helping me she would
let me fall. That's the other thing I'd be concerned about two. If I did
it, I would actually need somebody to stand behind me to help me balance.
That would be the thing. And no way I don't think my right shoulder would
like it. What I'm getting really frustrated. I can't seem to get in a
comfortable position to sleep. And this is been since Monday. I'm just
getting really really frustrated with this whole turn of events.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2015, at 2:44 PM, linda gehres <ljgehres@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Oh, Kathleen, no way do we want you to do something that would make you
even more injured than you are already!! Good decision on your part.
Linda G.
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On Behalf Of Panix
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:37 AM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Well with the way my right shoulder is I'm not sure I would be able to
shoot a gun. And I'm not really sure I would have the balance. I probably
could try it but I'd end up in rehab for time number three. And I'm really
don't think that would be worth it. But yes I have felt the gun. When I
visited my friend in Michigan he let me feel one. And he asked me if I
wanted to shoot it and I said no I just don't want any part of it. Because
I would be afraid I would fall and lose my balance.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:05 AM, Karen Delzer <catwacky@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Woooo, you go, girl!!! Yah, I'm about 4 foot ten and Curt is about 5 foot
7. I used to be absolutely terrified at even thinking of holding a gun,
but I would do it now. And I know that my son is very good and was one of
the best when he was in the Marines, so he could teach me. Curt has done
it already. Think it would be interesting, anyway. Yep, always use good
sense about doing something like that, and safety first.
Karen
on 08:36 PM 12/3/2015, Vickie said:
LOL! I hear that you are a little spit fire of a woman, Karen. Short I
mean. And that Curt is tall. But anyway, I carry a small 22 gun with a
barrel no bigger than my pointer finger. He makes a loud noise when shot,
but you can hold him steady and I have shot perfect targets with him. I
call him Little, because he is. So I don’t think you’d have to worry
about being thrown back on your duff if you went shooting. Your son
should know how much of a recoil (the kick or percussion of the bullet
going off), you can handle due to his experience. I was very scared at
first, to even touch a gun. But I have learned to be more confortable
with it and when the safety is on, there’s no worry. But I will admit,
every time I shoot one of my new guns, I am a little shy of what to
expect. Shells get ejected when you shoot a semi automatic, and they
don’t feel good because they’re hot. And, we wear earplugs when we go out
shooting. Just those little rubber things that you stick in your ear and
sometimes fall out if you move too quickly. smile. But they work. Your
son should know how to have you hold a 12-gauge shotgun, so that it won’t
throw you. Well, I’ve said enough now. The one thing my husband has
pressed in my head is that if someone hands you a gun and says it’s not
loaded, never believe it, until you have checked for yourself that it is
loaded, while holding it in a safe position, pointed at no one. Again, be
safe.
Vickie
From: Karen Delzer
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:55 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Well, good for you, Vickie. My younger son who was in the Marines has
always intended to take me to learn a bit about shooting, but we haven't
done it. It would be interesting, if I didn't get knocked on my derriere.
I agree with you completely.
Karen
on 07:18 PM 12/3/2015, Vickie said:
Actually, Iâve completed several background checks at gun shows and at
stores that sell guns. They keep saying that at gun shows they donât do
background checks. At every one Iâve been to here in Arizona, they
always take background checks and call them in, before selling a fire arm.
Also, they do ask questions about if youâve ever been diagnosed with a
mental illness, and other such oriented questions, along with if youâve
ever been convicted of either a misdemeanor or felony. I own several
kinds of guns, and have passed all the background checks. The only
problem I have, is being able to go into an inside shooting range. They
say I might shoot the ceiling or the floor and I canât get training, so
far for carry concealed. So I go out int he desert and shoot with my
husband who has been trained. But here in Arizona you donât have to have
a permit to carry either open or concealed. Our sheriff stated three days
ago and repeated his words last night in light of the shooting, that he
wants anyone who has a concealed carry permit to try and stop a mass
shooting, if at all possible. Law enforcement canât get there soon
enough to actually stop such a tragedy. So, maybe if more law enforcement
people stated something like that, perhaps terrorists would hear it and be
somewhat afraid anyway. They just keep pouncing on places which are gun
free. Of course, California is a gun free state, so youâre easy
pickings. Please stay safe.
Vickie
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 11:52 AM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
I agree. We do need better background checks. I think when Bill Clinton
was president, he wanted to make that a law if I remember correctly.
From: Connie Mohney
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 10:47 AM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
I agree. We do need to tightne our gun laws and do better back ground
checks to make sure people who want guns have no history of mental illness.
Connie
From: ourplace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:ourplace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of linda gehres
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:20 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
I heard the name Siad Ferek or however he spelledit, mentioned on the
news. My friend has heard the news this morning and says that the person
they thought was a third suspect wasnât involved. Weâve just gotta
tighten up gun laws in this country and force especially people with known
mental illness to better checks prior to them being able to get guns. An
awful lot of troubled people in our midst, but Curt, you are so right,
there are so many good people, too, and as hard as it is sometimes, I try
to keep my spirits on how good so many people in this world are.
Linda G.
From: ourplace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:ourplace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:59 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Hi, Vicky,
Iâm so glad to hear that there were no developmentally disabled people
involved but any kind of shooting is tragic. I wouldnât be surprised if
these guys are tied to ISIS.
Rosie
From: Vickie
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:42 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Itâs my understanding that it was a Health Department Christmas party
and no developmentally disabled people were involved. This room was a
community room and the rest of the building has keycard security.
Thatâs why it was so easy for the shooters to enter and exit so quickly.
They were also I believe the news man here said, 500 feet from I-10 which
also gave them easy access. I also saw an email saying that ISIS was
celebrating the shooting today. So, maybe these people are tied to them.
The guyâs name is Siad Faruk. Didnât hear the ladyâs name, or the
suspect they have in custody.
Vickie
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:25 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] Re: The Horror in San Bernardino
Hi, Linda,
I'm beginning to wonder too if earth has seen its last days. The way
things
are going, it sure seems like it to me. My heart is very heavy today
because
my sister Lillian is developmentally disabled and those poor people there
were too.
Rosie
-----Original Message-----
From: linda gehres
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 8:08 PM
To: ourplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourplace] The Horror in San Bernardino
As I had an appointment to get a cortizone injection in my shoulder and
could
only estimate how long the appointment would take or how long it would take
Paratransit to get back to me, I didn't start hearing about the horrible
shootings until about 5 p.m., although I got a cell phone notification
around 11
a. m. that something horrific had happened there. Curt and Karen, I
prayed
you
were far away from it all and am glad to know you're both fine.
Scott Pelly, with CBS Evening News and 60 Minutes, made a very good
observation
on his show tonight. Since June, when the nine people at the Charleston,
North
Carolina church were shot, they've had to start their reporting about
seven
or
eight weeks in a row with some kind of gun-related tragedy in this
country,
but
this is the first time that there was more than a lone shooter involved.
I
know
the FBI isn't ruling out terrorism but they just don't want to speculate
right
now until they've been able to glean more information. Really makes me
wonder
how much longer we human beings have left on this planet given all the
random
shootings. I hear about it all the time in Oakland, but Alameda has a much
stricter and better manned police force, so you don't see the
homelessness,
the
downtrodden, and the black-on-black fighting as you do in Oakland. Scares
the
woollies out of me, I'll tell ya!!
Linda G.
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