RE: standby at remote site

  • From: "Mark W. Farnham" <mwf@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ksmadduri@xxxxxxxxx>, <Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:27:22 -0400

With properly maintained coorespondence "rapidclone" can be used on all
tiers to keep the software and configuration in sync. Jerry Ireland and I
are presenting a paper about this at Collaborate 09 (but we are not
addressing the mechanics of the standby database itself at all) Fortunately
since the standby keeps the same database name and the host name
dependencies for each tier are translated in the rapidclone process the only
catch is to make sure you don't overwrite the destination database that is
your standby in the rapidclone process.

 

So the short answer to your question is that the "rapidclone" processes
allow you to keep the standby site matching the primary by proper use of
"preclone" and later "autoconfig."

 

(For dinosaurs it used to be much easier before name dependencies were
allowed to be scattered myriad places beginning about 1995 with the changes
announced at the Nashville OAUG meeting that nearly caused a riot. Those who
realized that this was the start of an endless treadmill of forced
incremental patching ala the large corporation convicted of anti-trust
violations were pretty upset. When the presenter responded to a question
about cloning with "Why would you want to clone an installation?" that is
when the near riot ensued. Not a red letter day in the history or Oracle
Applications.)

 

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Kumar Madduri
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:31 PM
To: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: standby at remote site

 

Clarification: In case of oracle applications, the additional steps would be
to configure these middle tiers to point to the new "primary" by running
autoconfig by changing the context_file  for db related entries to the new
"primary".  Are there any other changes? But this assumes that your
application tiers are not on the standby site.
But if the application tiers are on the standby site as well. How do you
manage the appl_top and other code trees. Similar to Data guard for db tier,
how is the app tier synched other than a periodic rsync from primary to
standby site. Is this the  only way or is there any other way to achieve
this as well?

Thank you
- Kumar

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Jack van Zanen <jack@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi

 

Also gives the opportunity to run the Standby on primary an hour or so
behind in the apply so you can easily recover when a user goes "Oops, silly
me just deleted the record without the where clause and now table is empty.
Let's phone our DBA and see if he can save my butt"

 

Jack

2009/3/27 Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>

In addition to jason's remarks i'd add that you'll want to be clear
about how switchover and failover will happen and how the choice of
new primary is made. Then test at least switchover and resultant
application and interface etc performance.


On 3/26/09, Jason Heinrich <jheinrichdba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This is a fairly common DR scenario.  I would just make sure that you have
> sufficient bandwidth between the sites to ship the logs.  See
>
http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/availability/pdf/MAA_WP_10gR2_DataGu
ardNetworkBestPractices.pdffor
> some tips on optimizing the redo transport.
>
> --
> Jason Heinrich
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Kumar Madduri <ksmadduri@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>> Hi List:
>> We have a standby here but we want to create an additional standby at a
>> remote location. So 2 standbys. One is in the same location (not the same
>> server) another in a remote location- this would be the DR site.  Wanted
>> to
>> get the experience of the list and any areas to watch out for in this
kind
>> of setup.
>>
>> Primary is 2 node rac. Standy is single instance;  DB is on 10.2.0.4
>>
>> Thank you
>> Kumar
>>
>

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