John, Do you have 10g Automatic Memory Management (AMM) turned on? If so then a lot of the init parameters are ignored. To use AMM you set the sga_max_size, sga_target, and pga_aggregate_target parameters in the init. The db_cache_size,db_xk_cache_size, db_keep_cache_size, db_recycle_cache_size, large_pool_size, log_buffer, shared_pool_size, java_pool_size, streams_pool_size, sort_area_size, and hash_area_size become zero, default, or minimum allowing the AMM to increase the size as needed. Ron >>> "Hallas, John, Tech Dev" <John.Hallas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 06/07/06 10:05 AM >>> I have a number of 10G databases where the value of log_buffer in the spfile is not the same as the value within the instance. Oracle is obviously deciding it's own value. This is the same on systems using ASSM and not (sga_target) The documentation does not seem to support this but I am sure from a number of instances that this is happening. Any ideas on this. Nothing much coming from Metalink. I believe that this is also happening on a databases using an init.ora file rather than an spfile Thanks John SQL> show parameter log_buffer NAME TYPE VALUE ------------------------------------ ----------- ------------------------------ log_buffer integer 2097152 SQL> show parameter spfile NAME TYPE VALUE ------------------------------------ ----------- ------------------------------ spfile string /WELDBPROD/u01/oradata/GMSDB/s pfileGMSDB.ora SQL> !strings /WELDBPROD/u01/oradata/GMSDB/spfileGMSDB.ora | grep -i log_buffer *.log_buffer=32768 SQL> show parameter sga_target NAME TYPE VALUE ------------------------------------ ----------- ------------------------------ sga_target big integer 512M SQL> show sga Total System Global Area 536870912 bytes Fixed Size 2030296 bytes Variable Size 234882344 bytes Database Buffers 297795584 bytes Redo Buffers 2162688 bytes SQL> show parameter shared_pool NAME TYPE VALUE ------------------------------------ ----------- ------------------------------ shared_pool_reserved_size big integer 11324620 shared_pool_size big integer 0 Manual SGA parameters are specified by the user, and the given sizes precisely control the sizes of their corresponding components. When SGA_TARGET is set, the total size of manual SGA size parameters is subtracted from the SGA_TARGET value, and balance is given to the auto-tuned SGA components. For example, if SGA_TARGET = 8G and DB_KEEP_CACHE_SIZE = 1G, this means that the total size of the four auto-tuned components (shared pool, java pool, default buffer cache, and large pool) is limited to 7GB. The 7GB includes the fixed SGA and log buffer, and only after those have been allocated the rest of the memory is divided between the components. The size of the keep cache is 1GB, as specified by the parameter. The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l