Re: hash joins and pga/temp space?
- From: "Vlad Sadilovskiy" <vlovsky@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:10:58 -0500
You might be interrested in analysing hash join statistics on some test data
for your purpose. Please, refer to the post on ixora.com
http://www.ixora.com.au/q+a/sqlopt.htm
On 11/14/06, ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx <ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am really just looking for a way to predictively forecast how much hash
space I need for a given query. Assuming the plan is the same. So as I add
data I can know in advance what I will need instead of a try and find out.
The system is in development. I don't have production data. So we are
testing with smaller data sets.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Peter Sylvester <peters@xxxxxxxxx>
> I don't have all the answers, but I did run into some issues with hash
> joins degenerating into nested-loop joins when the record count
> increased. I ended up cranking up the PGA_AGGREGATE_TARGET since I am
> doing the auto-PGA thing (10.2.0.2/Solaris10), and it seemed to solve my
> problem. I also added USE_HASH hints, but I *think* it will still do
> something else if it does not have enough memory for the hash table.
> Unfortunately I do not have a representative test system for this
> warehouse style implementation.
>
> Note that if you use the USE_HASH hint the smaller table should be the
> first parameter.
>
> I also recall reading that there are some upper limits for the hash_area
> and s ort_area memory sizes (200mb?) when using the auto-PGA, and some
> undocumented parameters may be required for getting larger sizes. In my
> case I was able to get away with adjusting PGA_AGGREGATE_TARGET up so
> did not get into that.
>
> There is some interested reading on hash joins (as well as sorting
> costs, and lots of other things...) in Jonathan Lewis' book "Cost-Based
> Oracle Fundamentals", which you may want to check out.
>
> --Peter
>
> --
> http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l
>
>
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I am really just looking for a way to predictively forecast how much hash space I need for a given query. Assuming the plan is the same. So as I add data I can know in advance what I will need instead of a try and find out. The system is in development. I don't have production data. So we are testing with smaller data sets. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Peter Sylvester <peters@xxxxxxxxx> > I don't have all the answers, but I did run into some issues with hash > joins degenerating into nested-loop joins when the record count > increased. I ended up cranking up the PGA_AGGREGATE_TARGET since I am > doing the auto-PGA thing (10.2.0.2/Solaris10), and it seemed to solve my > problem. I also added USE_HASH hints, but I *think* it will still do > something else if it does not have enough memory for the hash table. > Unfortunately I do not have a representative test system for this > warehouse style implementation. > > Note that if you use the USE_HASH hint the smaller table should be the > first parameter. > > I also recall reading that there are some upper limits for the hash_area > and s ort_area memory sizes (200mb?) when using the auto-PGA, and some > undocumented parameters may be required for getting larger sizes. In my > case I was able to get away with adjusting PGA_AGGREGATE_TARGET up so > did not get into that. > > There is some interested reading on hash joins (as well as sorting > costs, and lots of other things...) in Jonathan Lewis' book "Cost-Based > Oracle Fundamentals", which you may want to check out. > > --Peter > > -- > http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > >
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