Re: hanging shutdowns

If your requirement is to shutdown quickly, here is one solution
   
  1. Find out the process id for the current session from v$process.spid. and 
run "shutdown immediate"
  2.. From a separate session kill all the oracle${ORACLE_SID} processes except 
the process id found in step 1. This may have to be run from root, to kill 
bequeath processes.
   
  Joseph Amalraj
  
Robyn <robyn.sands@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Micheal,

I understand your position and when I arrived here, I made all the
same arguments. I've been told that our legal department insists on a
cold backup, and the requirement is non-negotiable. We run full test
recoveries on all our major systems on a regular basis and we use the
hot backups to do so. None of us doubt that the hot backups are
adequate for recovery.

So I guess we're not really 24x7, we're 24x7-15 and that 15 minutes is
a sacred cow that I need to leave alone right now ...

Thanks for the input and if I was calling the shots, I wouldn't do it
this way. However, I would still need a script that would shut the
database down quickly, possibly for maintenance or hardware issues, so
I really appreciate the suggestions provided on this thread.

Robyn

On 2/27/06, Michael Haddon wrote:
> I definitely agree, the shutdown is not the problem, it is doing what it is
> supposed to do in order to maintain data integrity and preserve
> transactions. The real questions is 'why do you shutdown at all??', I
> haven't been forced to perform a cold backup on a schedule in years. I
> thought 7X24 really meant 7X24. If the production environment can deal with
> the downtime necessary to perform cold backups, then couldn't that time be
> used to perform batch transactions or some other necessary task.
>
> I would recommend spending some time on hot backups and showing your boss
> that the software is a little smarter these days and a complete, point in
> time/ or some other time recovery is easy. Take a few days/weeks and show
> him that you can give him an exact copy of his production system anytime he
> wants it. Make him comfortable and your cold backups will be a thing of the
> past, otherwise, get another boss!
>
> Just my .02
>
> Mike
>
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