That sounds like 1) setup standby - physical 2) open standby read-write at time x 3) do stuff 4) flashback to before x 5) resume standby all very clever, and indeed briefly mentioned in the age-inducing presentation John refers to. I've never actually done it, because it seems far too likely to go horribly wrong. Niall On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Bellows, Bambi (Comsys) <bbel5@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > John -- > > Thanks for the email back. Duplicate database seemed to me to be the way > to go… but, evidently, there's a nifty new feature called flashback > database, which, when combined with RMAN and DataGuard, clones a database. > The folks here seem pretty excited about the prospects… and if it just > applies changes since the last clone, it would speed things up (for > subsequent clones, of course), but I wanted to make sure that it would be as > fast as it sounds, so I came to the List, home of all the experts one could > ever wish for… ;) > > > > Thanks again for your response… > > Bambi. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* John Hallas [mailto:John.Hallas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2008 2:25 PM > *To:* Bellows, Bambi (Comsys); oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* RE: Timing for Cloning with Flashback Database vs other methods > > > > I wish I felt like a young whippersnapper. Niall did a presentation at > UKPUG this week that made me feel very old and my younger colleague was > nudging me constantly with a smirk on his face. > > > > What do you mean by cloning a database by flashback Bambi? I am not sure > that option exists, even in 11g. You can flashback a database to a point in > time using recover points but actually cloning a database is new to me. > > > > We are currently experimenting with doing an EM database clone (which uses > RMAN behind the scenes anyway). Some success but if a few iffies with a > Peoplesoft database still to resolve. Duplicate database is the way to go > though. As Niall says, it can be speeded up and is pretty simple, especially > if you can get it all scripted (and maybe use OMF files). > > > > John > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Bellows, Bambi (Comsys) > *Sent:* 05 December 2008 17:43 > *To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* Timing for Cloning with Flashback Database vs other methods > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Wm Morrison Supermarkets Plc is registered in England with number 358949. > The registered office of the company is situated at Gain Lane, Bradford, > West Yorkshire BD3 7DL. This email and any attachments are intended for the > addressee(s) only and may be confidential. > > If you are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by replying > to the email that you have received in error and then destroy the email. > If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy or > rely on the email or its attachments in any way. > > Wm Morrison Supermarkets PLC accepts no liability or responsibility for > anything said in the email or its attachments and gives no warranty as to > accuracy. It is the policy of Wm Morrison Supermarkets PLC not to enter into > any contractual or other obligations by email. > > Although we have taken steps to ensure the email and its attachments are > virus-free, we cannot guarantee this or accept any responsibility, > and it is the responsibility of recipients to carry out their own virus > checks. > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info